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Old 08-16-2006, 08:27 AM
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Default CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENT EXPERIMENTS AMONG U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS ( a must read ! )

http://www1.va.gov/EnvironAgents/doc...tion_Paper.pdf


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CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENT EXPERIMENTS AMONG U.S. SERVICE MEMBERS
History of U.S. Chemical Warfare Agent Human Experiments....................................... ..............2
Early Experiments Through World-War 2................................................. ................................3
Accidents with Chemical Warfare Agents............................................ ......................................4
Post World-War 2 ? Edgewood/Aberdeen Experiments....................................... .....................4
Biological Agent Human Experiments....................................... ................................................5
SHAD and Project 112 Tests............................................. .................................................. .......5
A Growing Awareness......................................... .................................................. .........................6
Call for Independent Evaluation........................................ .................................................. .......7
Comparing Past and Current Human Research Guidelines........................................ ................7
What Agents Were Tested?........................................... .................................................. ...............8
Common Pharmaceutical Agents and Placebos.......................................... ................................9
Anticholinesterases............................... .................................................. .................................10
Anticholinergics.................................. .................................................. ...................................10
Cholinesterase Reactivators, Cannabinoids, Irritants and Blister Agents, Phencyclidine and LSD............................................... .................................................. .........................................10
Acute Effects reported for Edgewood/Aberdeen Subjects.......................................... .................14
Anticholinergics.................................. .................................................. ...................................14
Reactivators...................................... .................................................. .....................................15
PCP............................................... .................................................. .........................................15
Cannabinoids...................................... .................................................. ...................................16
LSD............................................... .................................................. .........................................16
Irritants and Vesicants (Mustard Agents, Lewisite, CS, CN, CR, DM, CA, Chloropicrin, Nonanoyl Morpholide, CHT, and 123 Other Miscellaneous Irritants).....................................16
Potential Long-Term Health Effects Among Experimental Subjects.......................................... .19
Mustard Agent and Lewisite Experiments....................................... .........................................19
Epidemiological Studies of World War 2 Mustard and Lewisite Military Human Subjects...21
Health Effects among Post World War 2 Edgewood/Aberdeen Subjects................................21
LSD Effects........................................... .................................................. .................................23
Psychological Impact of Test Participation..................................... .........................................25
Recent Study on Long-Term Health Effects Among Edgewood/Aberdeen Subjects..............26
Evaluating SHAD Veterans.......................................... .................................................. ..........26
Long-Term Health Effects in Other Populations....................................... ...................................27
From Military OP Nerve Agents............................................ .................................................. 27
From Cannabinoids...................................... .................................................. ...........................29
Conclusions....................................... .................................................. .........................................30
References........................................ .................................................. ..........................................30
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:35 AM
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Larry,

I was at Edgewood Arsenal after being sent back from Nam. They had "Med Vols" there who were given all kinds of stuff. Drugs, nerve agents, etc. They were some very strange dudes.

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Old 08-16-2006, 11:37 AM
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Larry....it says the page I'm looking for has been removed. Can't get in by your post. Did get the main page but don't know where to go from there. Did they mention Edgewood Arsenal?

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Cannabinoids. I'll bet John was the first to volunteer for that test.
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:12 PM
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:27 PM
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Sir's!

PDF-version via initial google-search:
http://www1.va.gov/environagents/doc...tion_Paper.pdf

HTML-version via initial google-search:
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:...n&ct=clnk&cd=1


Searchresults by searching for multiple pages within "www1.va.gov/EnvironAgents/docs/", using google:
Click to View Search Results for +site Google: +site
Above however reached directly by going in to the following subpage:
http://www1.va.gov/environagents/


The reason the initial link did not work, is that the URL-part "EnviroAgents" is now instead "enviroagents". The small difference with "capital letters" is what makes the difference wether being able to access it or not. It is my personal experience that, "agencys" and other governmental "entitys" rather often change the subpage-URL's, thereby making old bookmarks to annoyingly often no longer work. "NARA" (not to mention USARMY's official website!) is just yet 1 other example of this.... Drives me "bonkers" always having to try to update direct links for subpages to such!

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We had a Vietnam Village set up at Ft McClellan, Alabama when I was there to train troops going over the pond. The Chemical School was also at Ft. McClellan and had apparently used the tunnels to test mustard gas. We had two separate incidents of guys being contaminated with mustard gas. I remember it looked like massive 2nd degree burns.
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Man neither one of the sites mentioned open for me. Big brother must be monitoring the site to make sure we can't open it to find out what they did to soldiers. Just like the Atomic Vets.
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JUst two letters to remember when dealing with Chemical Agents.
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Run, Very fast, don't stop until you fall down, when you wake up run some more.

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And when your running from VX Nerve Agent attack, run upwind or to the side never down wind! Just some helpful info to survive Also Atropine is like high dose Amphetamine so if you get Attacked with Nerve Agent and have the symptoms a bottle of Amphetamine (liquid version) could save your life. Pills would work but would take a massive dosage to get into your system to counteract the VX Nerve Gas symptoms plus you could OD from the massive dosage if you took too much.
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