Kerry's Abhorent Voting Record

[zuni_rocket]

Sen. John Kerry

Democrat from Massachusetts

says he is strongest

Presidential Candidate on National Defense !


He said Check the Record..

We Did !


Here is what we learned.



He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle


He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank


He voted to kill every Aircraft carrier laid down from 1988


He voted to kill the Aegis anti aircraft system


He voted to Kill the F-15 strike eagle


He voted to Kill the Block 60 F-16


He voted to Kill the P-3 Orion upgrade


He voted to Kill the B-1


He voted to Kill the B-2


He voted to Kill the Patriot anti Missile system


He voted to Kill the FA-18


He voted to Kill the B-2


He voted to Kill the F117

He voted to kill

every military appropriation for the development

and deployment of every weapons systems since 1988,

including a bill for battle armor for our troops.

It is most likely,

with Sen. John Kerry as President

and Commander in Chief of our Armed Services,

that they will cease to function

making it impossible for our country

to protect itself

John Kerry voted to kill all anti-terrorism activities of
each and every agency of the U.S. Government.

He voted to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%,

He voted to cut the funding for the CIA by 80%,

He voted to cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.

THEN,

and this is abhorant

to almost every American Voter

be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
He voted to increase OUR funding for

U.N operations by 800% !!


Ask yourself

Is THIS a the person you

want as President of these United States

providing for the Common Defense of the Nation

and be the Leader of the Free World ?


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Voting history can be accessed through Senate voting records.

The above is an accurate summary.

[reconeil]

Great ending question!!! My answer as a sane, sensible and patriotic American,...MUST BE: No-way-in-hell!

Besides, and to further explain my answer to you (all others inclusive),...is the fact that my parents never raised any easily duped fools, stupid followers or purposefully deceiving and manipulating politicians, whom would sacrifice all Americans just so as to: "Recapture The Whitehouse". Thusly, how could I possibly think any different?

Also, during wartime America simply can no longer afford the luxury of doing business as usual and/or continue being entertained by the never ending and quite public-deceiving Dem/Lib political carnival, merely so some clique can once again: "Recapture The White House"? During our most nationally dangerous of all wartimes, I personally find such capitulating to everything foreign to America zealots ,...NO LONGER AMUSING. Quite the opposite.

In fairness, I must exclude Democrat Senator Lieberman from my normally broad brush Dem/Lib attack. Only one of such I've heard speak to date that makes sense, and can actually be believed. How-the-hell did he ever end up with such an untrustworthy and UN type thinking political crowd/clique?

Neil

P.S. Sorry forgot to rate your thread: "Best" and/or 5 stars.
Maybe your next response will do just that?

[Seascamp]

And if we were to burrow down into the middle earth caverns where the Kerry book and other artifacts are secreted away there would be a few more surprises. At a time Kerry was an advocate of turning command of the US military over to the UN. I can?t say that he still advocates such insanity but he sure did at one time, yup.

Scamp

[reconeil]

So then,...would it be correct in assuming that Kerry also, and not just Clinton alone, had much to do with the quite lethal Somali debacle, caused by ordering that U.S. Troops be under the command of UN COMMANDERS in Somalia???

Hey, and especially supporting the U.S. Military: "With friends (Commanders and Presidents inclusive) like these, who-the-hell-needs-enemies (terrorists also)"?

Neil

[zuni_rocket]

I'M CONFUSED...

I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in my head so

I'll know how to vote come November. Right now, we have one guy saying one thing. Then the other guy says something else. Who to believe. Lemme see; have I got this straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good... Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good... Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists good... Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good... Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good... Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good... Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good... No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good... Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good... World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good... Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good... Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good... Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing !

[Seascamp]

As it turned out, it was UN Pakistani troops that bailed the US troops out of hell in Somalia/Mogadishu and I don?t believe that particular US contingent was under UN command at the time. The rub was that US forces were operating without informing the UN forces what the heck was going on and there was some backlash/rescue delay associated with that particular acramony.


Rather, that was a sad saga of US forces sent out to accomplish a mission and being denied requested and appropriate contingency equipment if things went wrong. Clinton owns that debacle all by his only, and it had to do with not appearing too aggressive and appeasing/kissing the ever-present UN ass, ta dot ta da. As I recall Clinton identified a scrape goat/whipping boy in his administration, did an obligatory firing of someone in the decision loop and that was about it for that episode.

Scamp

[reconeil]

First-off thanks again to Zuni for another eye-opener and public awakener entitled: "I'M CONFUSED".

Still Scamp, my recollection of The Somali Debacle is somewhat different than yours. I remember a small American Force biting-off more than they could chew, since not realizing that they were conducting a mission right in the middle of a hornet's nest and/or right in the heart of where most all of The Somali Warlord's WELL ARMED forces were grouped and encamped.

I also recall that even though armored support was desperately needed and warranted from the onset, none was permitted by The UN COMMAND for days,...and why placiing U.S. Forces under UN COMMAND should rightfully haunt Clinton, clique and supporters to their dying days (plus thereafter).

Regardless, and even though so many brave men were killed and wounded, given their fiercely fighting against such overwhelming odds, I cannot believe that the fighting forces of any other nation on earth would've fought as well and so courageously. Any others, would've just given-up or surrendered.

Still, I hope that stupidly placing American Troops precariously out on a limb by putting them UNDER UN COMMAND & UN SUPPORT by Our Political War Lords, just never happens again. "America's Finest" deserve better. Hell,...A LOT BETTER. The UN (just like some politicians) simply cannot be counted on in general,...much less while under fire or during wartime.

Neil

[Seascamp]

Neil,
I?m fairly certain the Rangers and Delta team had absolute knowledge that they were choppering right into the epicenter of the Mogadishu Bakara market place shit-storm and reckoned speed and surprise would get them in and out in a hurry. Didn?t work that way as things came unraveled right from the get-go and they were in deep, deep trouble. But that?s what I recall and, alas, I?m not all that trustworthy when it comes to total recall, LOL. :cd:

Anyway, hooking up with the UN is not unlike getting stuck in the La Bra tar pits and the best possible and most optimistic outcome is to become an extinct species decorating a museum wall at some time or another. I think we see eye-to-eye on that issue.

Scamp

[zuni_rocket]

I found this web site by Military.Com http://www.military.com/ContentFiles/BHDbackgroundM
That does an excellant job of bringing the events to light.

The request for Bradley Fighting Vehicles and AC-130 Spectre gunships were denied by Secretary of Defense the odious Les Aspen.

Jim Bishop
iyaoyas!

[reconeil]

So then,...I guess it's more than fair saying that Dem/Lib control of: "America's Finest" and Bravest (re. The U.S. Military) NO MATTER WHEN,...is actually worse than the quite lethal nonsense of placing U.S. Troops under UN and/or also similar types intent on fighting politically-correct warfare (eventually?) COMMAND???

Regardless, whether ever COMMANDED by usually enemy capitulating UN Command or likeminded Dem/Lib Command,...as an American I personally believe that any and all Americans and American Forces ALWAYS deserve a much better command structure, than either such types of suspect allegiances referred to.

Hey,...just some pre-election food for thought for those politically brainwashed and/or deceived having their heads usually in their specific political bent's sand box.

Neil

P.S. Not a Navy Man,...what does: "iyaoyas!" mean?