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Old 02-28-2004, 05:19 AM
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Default NEIL & DUDE!!!!!

As to who gave the "Career Politicians" the dispensation to handle the cash drawer in such a manner, IS TERRIBLE!!!!

And the answer is:
WE DID!!!!!!
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(And the sad part of it, is there is no change)
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Old 02-28-2004, 11:45 AM
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Fully understand where you're (no doubt MANY others also) commin-from. In essence believing that voting right, wrong or non-voting by many are where the problems arise.

Regarding such and/or your answer: "WE DID!!!!!!!",...I totally and whole heartedly disagree. CONTINUOUS PUBLIC OUTRAGE IS DESPERATELY NEEDED,...not voting. Voting only gives different bents turns at further ripping-off the lowly Public, and thus always favoring the superior rulers and/or superior governmental entities AS NEEDED(?).

First and foremost, and whether one votes FOR WHATEVER BENT OFFICIALS IN AUTHORITY (or not),...no such OFFICIALS (as high as The Presidency) are given carta blanche to do as "They" damn-well-please with THE PEOPLE'S MONEY and/or Tax Revenues,...much less with PERSONAL and/or weekly deposited monies for ones retirement. Such monies held in trust for individuals should remain untouched and/or sacrosanct from God "Himself".

Besides, don't all American Officials (OF WHATEVER BENT) of This Republic take oaths to protect: "We The People (our monies inclusive)",...INSTEAD of just protecting, safeguarding and enlarging Government's stake in all finances and matters (the norm)? That alone MERITS: "CONTINUOUS PUBLIC OUTRAGE". Don't you think? After all, IT IS MY/YOUR/OUR MONIES ALONE, that's being discussed here.

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Old 02-29-2004, 07:36 AM
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Default NEIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Certainly agree with your description of how to get to them. And as to "WE DID", if WE didn't, then who did!!!!!
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Old 02-29-2004, 06:10 PM
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"THEY" and/or 600 or so Congressmen and Senators, without even asking the depositors of record for all Social Security Monies DID!!!

So then,...I think it's more than fair concluding that once anyone in America achieves high office, power and control (no matter what bent), such automatically breeds a cavalier and lordly contempt for their normally awestruck of authority and largely cowering and obedient Subjects.

Hey,...given such easy: "Marks", it's no wonder that our rulers do as "They" damn-well please with our lifelong contributed to for retirement monies. We The People should be glad that we are still even permitted Social Security, since ever growing and bloated government and their preferential projects need the money much more than us,...or so The Dems/Libs would have all believe.

Guess we're lucky that The Lords of The Manor still allow us to even get some of MY/YOUR/OUR money back? After all, Big Brother, friends, affiliated and beholders ALWAYS have much more need for OUR MONEY,...than: "We The (Schnooks)" ever could or ever would.

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Old 02-29-2004, 06:39 PM
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Recon -

Hate to finally admit, but it IS "Lords of the Manor" ain't it...

For so long the idea of "class" issues has been denied... but finally it does come down to that.

I have zero confidence, however, in any method yet proposed to alter that time immeorial system.

So, my solution is to just keep on fightin' like a banshee every time any part of it tries to reduce what I have rightly earned... and to make as sure as I am able that Lady Carol will have a safe, warm/cool, quiet place to be when I am gone.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:27 AM
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Default THEY!!!!!!!!!!

were elected by WE!!!!!! And your suggestion or solution is what will have to take place to correct the situation. But, we can't replace one village idiot with another and expect a change.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:54 AM
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! Thus proving the point that VOTING IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! Unfortunately and unless somehow: "CONNECTED" or one of ruling elites' pets or pet projects ,...voting is of very little importance to The American Taxpayer in general. "WE" just pay AS TOLD, and just do and obey AS TOLD,....no matter what lesser of 2 evils are voted into office every 2, 4, or 6 years. The best one can hope for in America, is that any new electees aren't just a greedy and self/clique-serving as the previous lot. Plus, being just as concerned about Americans as normally concerned about foreigners,...also couldn't hurt.

When dealing with lordly ones, Sean Connery (in: "Hunt for Red October") said it best. "A little revolution now and then is good". "Don't you think"?

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Recon & humper -

I had the idea once that the best way to get people to vote would be to tie their being able to obtain a driver license to being able to show proof that they have voted in every election in between
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