Re: A damn good message...

Nice find. Appreciate it.

Engineer
"Pepperoni" wrote in message
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> This was found in a very unlikely group and forwarded in its entirety.
> Credit to thegoz
>
> Pepperoni
>
> "Tom G." wrote in message
> news:c8GMb.9191$ct4.1984@lakeread05...
> > A recent speach by a damn fine General...
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
> > General Hawley, is a newly retired USAF
> > 4 star general. He commanded the Air Combat Command [our front-line
> > fighters and bombers] at Langley AFB, VA. He is now retired and no
> > longer required to be politically correct.
> >
> > "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
> > surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.
> >
> >
> > Here they are:
> >
> > 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen
> > carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me
> > now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't
> > mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy
> > on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country
> > has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be
> > the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
> > history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
> > happens.
> >
> > 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you
> > usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it.
> > Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
> > Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
> > half measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought
> > through, professional, well executed violence never leads to more
> > violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
> >
> > That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back
> > into the bosom of love." Dead.
> >
> > 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us."
> > For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
> > ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not
> > protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
> > Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
> > that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
> > satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate
> > from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a
> > license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans Finding humans
> > is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
> > bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
> > really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
> > into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks
> > like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
> > coffee shop in Kabul and say
> >
> > "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well,
> > you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll
> > be telling for years.
> >
> > 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at
> > us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
> > desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than
> > Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless
> > people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in
> > power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes
> > into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
> > this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching
> > against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any
> > cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend
> > more time drinking. It's the same today.
> >
> > 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
> > Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
> > article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden
> > family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
> > never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
> > crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for
> > a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor
> > in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt.Rushmore and
> > turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't
> > offend them."
> >
> > SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered
> > brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
> > immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
> > science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper
> > sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No
> > More Pearl Harbors."
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > \\\|///
> > \\ - - //
> > ( @ @ )
> > ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------
> > Tom Gosnell thegoz@cox.net
> > --------------Oooo-------------
> > oooO ( )
> > ( ) ) /
> > \ ( (_/
> > \_)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Tis indeed a good message - although it was not from General Hawley. This
piece was actually written by humourist Larry Miller on January 14, 2002.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...0/762dbnlm.asp

--
Nigel Brooks


"Engineer" wrote in message
news:btvhmb$bsr42$1@ID-169205.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Nice find. Appreciate it.
>
> Engineer
> "Pepperoni" wrote in message
> news:btvc3o$c00or$1@ID-105689.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > This was found in a very unlikely group and forwarded in its entirety.
> > Credit to thegoz
> >
> > Pepperoni
> >
> > "Tom G." wrote in message
> > news:c8GMb.9191$ct4.1984@lakeread05...
> > > A recent speach by a damn fine General...
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > General Hawley, is a newly retired USAF
> > > 4 star general. He commanded the Air Combat Command [our front-line
> > > fighters and bombers] at Langley AFB, VA. He is now retired and no
> > > longer required to be politically correct.
> > >
> > > "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of
such
> > > surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them
too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Here they are:
> > >
> > > 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen
> > > carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with
me
> > > now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't
> > > mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy
> > > on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our
country
> > > has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will
be
> > > the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
> > > history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
> > > happens.
> > >
> > > 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you
> > > usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say
it.
> > > Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
> > > Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
> > > half measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought
> > > through, professional, well executed violence never leads to more
> > > violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
> > >
> > > That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured
back
> > > into the bosom of love." Dead.
> > >
> > > 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed
us."
> > > For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
> > > ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for
not
> > > protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
> > > Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
> > > that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
> > > satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate
> > > from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by
a
> > > license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans Finding
humans
> > > is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
> > > bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
> > > really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
> > > into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who
looks
> > > like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in
a
> > > coffee shop in Kabul and say
> > >
> > > "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella.
"Well,
> > > you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll
> > > be telling for years.
> > >
> > > 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry
at
> > > us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
> > > desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer
than
> > > Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor
helpless
> > > people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay
in
> > > power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those
planes
> > > into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
> > > this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching
> > > against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any
> > > cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend
> > > more time drinking. It's the same today.
> > >
> > > 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
> > > Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
> > > article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin
Laden
> > > family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
> > > never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
> > > crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World"
for
> > > a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the
floor
> > > in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt.Rushmore and
> > > turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we
didn't
> > > offend them."
> > >
> > > SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our
murdered
> > > brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
> > > immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
> > > science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that
bumper
> > > sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says,
"No
> > > More Pearl Harbors."
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > \\\|///
> > > \\ - - //
> > > ( @ @ )
> > > ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------
> > > Tom Gosnell thegoz@cox.net
> > > --------------Oooo-------------
> > > oooO ( )
> > > ( ) ) /
> > > \ ( (_/
> > > \_)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Pepperoni" wrote in message
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> This was found in a very unlikely group and forwarded in its entirety.
> Credit to thegoz
>
> Pepperoni

You believe that, do you?

ted
>

This was found in a very unlikely group and forwarded in its entirety.
Credit to thegoz

Pepperoni

"Tom G." wrote in message
news:c8GMb.9191$ct4.1984@lakeread05...
> A recent speach by a damn fine General...
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> General Hawley, is a newly retired USAF
> 4 star general. He commanded the Air Combat Command [our front-line
> fighters and bombers] at Langley AFB, VA. He is now retired and no
> longer required to be politically correct.
>
> "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
> surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.
>
>
> Here they are:
>
> 1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen
> carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me
> now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't
> mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy
> on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country
> has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be
> the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
> history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
> happens.
>
> 2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you
> usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it.
> Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
> Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
> half measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought
> through, professional, well executed violence never leads to more
> violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
>
> That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back
> into the bosom of love." Dead.
>
> 3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us."
> For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
> ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not
> protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
> Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
> that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
> satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate
> from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a
> license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans Finding humans
> is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
> bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
> really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
> into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks
> like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
> coffee shop in Kabul and say
>
> "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well,
> you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll
> be telling for years.
>
> 4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at
> us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
> desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than
> Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless
> people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in
> power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes
> into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
> this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching
> against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any
> cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend
> more time drinking. It's the same today.
>
> 5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
> Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
> article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden
> family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
> never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
> crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for
> a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor
> in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt.Rushmore and
> turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't
> offend them."
>
> SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered
> brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
> immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
> science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper
> sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No
> More Pearl Harbors."
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Tom
>
> \\\|///
> \\ - - //
> ( @ @ )
> ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------
> Tom Gosnell thegoz@cox.net
> --------------Oooo-------------
> oooO ( )
> ( ) ) /
> \ ( (_/
> \_)
>
>
>
>
>
>

The quoted text as presented is a fraud.

This "speech" is actually adapted from a column by humorist Larry Miller
which appeared in The Daily Standard on 14 January 2002.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/hawley.htm
My apology for any misrepresentation on my part.

Pepperoni

"Pepperoni" wrote in message
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> This was found in a very unlikely group and forwarded in its entirety.