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Old 09-12-2003, 05:10 AM
Aligator Al
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Default Ted Goes To La La Land

Ted wrote:

"Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your post."

This is copied from my post:

"Our artillery FO’s RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I remember
seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire. The
artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the projectile,
he had to give it an “add 25” every fifth round or so. This was to move the
impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the tubes got
hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."

So much for Ted's reading comprehension. If he can't remember what he read a
couple of hours ago, how can he remember what he read years ago?

I will be nice to Alzheimer Ted. I'll send him a nice book with a box of
crayons. Be sure to stay in the lines, Ted...

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Old 09-12-2003, 06:46 AM
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"Aligator Al" wrote in message
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> Ted wrote:
>
> "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
> claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your post."
>
> This is copied from my post:
>
> "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I remember
> seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire.

The
> artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the

projectile,
> he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to move

the
> impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the

tubes got
> hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."


Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup find
themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too many
Sgt. Rock comic books.


--

----

Joe S.
2/13 FA
Vietnam, 69-70

>
> So much for Ted's reading comprehension. If he can't remember what he

read a
> couple of hours ago, how can he remember what he read years ago?
>
> I will be nice to Alzheimer Ted. I'll send him a nice book with a box of
> crayons. Be sure to stay in the lines, Ted...
>



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Old 09-12-2003, 07:29 AM
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"Joe S." wrote in message
news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
> "Aligator Al" wrote in message
> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
> > Ted wrote:
> >
> > "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
> > claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your post."
> >
> > This is copied from my post:
> >
> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I

remember
> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire.

> The
> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the

> projectile,
> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to move

> the
> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the

> tubes got
> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."

>
> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup find
> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too many
> Sgt. Rock comic books.
>
>
> --
>
> ----
>
> Joe S.
> 2/13 FA
> Vietnam, 69-70


Yep

Chas Hurst
C/7/15 Arty 67-68


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Old 09-12-2003, 07:45 AM
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"Joe S." wrote in message
news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
> "Aligator Al" wrote in message
> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
> > Ted wrote:
> >
> > "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
> > claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your post."
> >
> > This is copied from my post:
> >
> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I

remember
> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire.

> The
> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the

> projectile,
> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to move

> the
> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the

> tubes got
> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."

>
> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup find
> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too many
> Sgt. Rock comic books.
>
> ----
>
> Joe S.
> 2/13 FA
> Vietnam, 69-70
>


Either the original author was clueless or Deener the Beener took a little
poetic license. Right hand spin of the projo has nothing to do with it.
Coriolis effect will cause either a right or left drift in the trajectory
when fired north or south. A due east or west trajectory will cause no
Coriolis drift. Angles of fire between those two extremes will vary in
their Coriolis effect. Firing tables for all Field Artillery have
correction tables for it.

While not a cannon cocker, I do know that tubes droop from heat and cause
subsequent rounds to walk toward the gun, not "to the right".

--
Dave
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Old 09-12-2003, 09:12 AM
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"Joe S." wrote in message
news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
> "Aligator Mouth Shultis" wrote in message
> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
> >
> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I

remember
> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire.

> The
> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the

> projectile,
> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to move

> the
> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the

> tubes got
> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."

>
> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup find
> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too many
> Sgt. Rock comic books.


nah, he's been reading Cannon Fodder


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Old 09-12-2003, 10:30 AM
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In article , Dave Thompson says...
>
>
>"Joe S." wrote in message
>news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> "Aligator Al" wrote in message
>> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
>> > Ted wrote:
>> >
>> > "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
>> > claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your post."
>> >
>> > This is copied from my post:
>> >
>> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I

>remember
>> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the fire.

>> The
>> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the

>> projectile,
>> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to move

>> the
>> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as the

>> tubes got
>> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."

>>
>> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup find
>> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too many
>> Sgt. Rock comic books.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Joe S.
>> 2/13 FA
>> Vietnam, 69-70
>>

>
>Either the original author was clueless or Deener the Beener took a little
>poetic license. Right hand spin of the projo has nothing to do with it.
>Coriolis effect will cause either a right or left drift in the trajectory
>when fired north or south. A due east or west trajectory will cause no
>Coriolis drift. Angles of fire between those two extremes will vary in
>their Coriolis effect. Firing tables for all Field Artillery have
>correction tables for it.
>
>While not a cannon cocker, I do know that tubes droop from heat and cause
>subsequent rounds to walk toward the gun, not "to the right".


I quoted it exactly. If the author is wrong then he is wrong, but why did it
take y'all so long to figure out it is wrong? The only answer is that none of
y'all knew until you looked it up in a manual.
If I were an artilleryman and knew that the author was wrong, I would have
spoken up immediately, but where were you and Ted? Probably sliding under his
computer desk after drinking all day...

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Old 09-12-2003, 02:35 PM
Ted Gittinger
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"Alligator Al" wrote in message
news:bjsvrr02fe5@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article , Dave Thompson says...
> >
> >
> >"Joe S." wrote in message
> >news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >> "Aligator Al" wrote in message
> >> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
> >> > Ted wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
> >> > claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your

post."
> >> >
> >> > This is copied from my post:
> >> >
> >> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I

> >remember
> >> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the

fire.
> >> The
> >> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the
> >> projectile,
> >> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to

move
> >> the
> >> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as

the
> >> tubes got
> >> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."
> >>
> >> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup

find
> >> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too

many
> >> Sgt. Rock comic books.
> >>
> >> ----
> >>
> >> Joe S.
> >> 2/13 FA
> >> Vietnam, 69-70
> >>

> >
> >Either the original author was clueless or Deener the Beener took a

little
> >poetic license. Right hand spin of the projo has nothing to do with it.
> >Coriolis effect will cause either a right or left drift in the trajectory
> >when fired north or south. A due east or west trajectory will cause no
> >Coriolis drift. Angles of fire between those two extremes will vary in
> >their Coriolis effect. Firing tables for all Field Artillery have
> >correction tables for it.
> >
> >While not a cannon cocker, I do know that tubes droop from heat and cause
> >subsequent rounds to walk toward the gun, not "to the right".

>
> I quoted it exactly. If the author is wrong then he is wrong, but why did

it
> take y'all so long to figure out it is wrong? The only answer is that

none of
> y'all knew until you looked it up in a manual.
> If I were an artilleryman and knew that the author was wrong, I would have
> spoken up immediately, but where were you and Ted? Probably sliding under

his
> computer desk after drinking all day...


Possibly some of the more normal among us do not spend our days glued to the
computer monitor, waiting for you to post yet another egregious mistake. We
know you will do it, as surely as night follows the day, so the element of
suspense is missing. In the meanwhile we have other pursuits to occupy our
time. There will always be a spare moment to amuse ourselves by exposing
you to the truth, but there is no particular hurry. Taking out the trash
has a higher priority.

ted
>



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Old 09-12-2003, 03:02 PM
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References:
Posted by: "Joe S."

>Someone has been reading too many
>Sgt. Rock comic books.


ALRIGHT! Sgt Rock! And "Ice Cream Soldier"... and "Little John"...
and "Frenchy"... (*Our Army At War* by Bob Haney et. al.)

Yo! Paddy! Was Rock a Marine? Was it about "our Marines at war"?

Did you read the one where Sgt. Rock was captured, brainwashed, and
made to fight against Easy Co.?
http://www.slcollectibles.com/images...trock351sm.jpg

How come they never made comic books about machinists? (Well, OK,
"Out Our Way" by Neg Cochran did come close; however, they weren't
combat machinists!)

http://www.gographics.com/funnies/coming_and_going.htm

Jones
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Old 09-12-2003, 03:32 PM
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In article , Ted Gittinger says...
>
>
>"Alligator Al" wrote in message
>news:bjsvrr02fe5@drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article , Dave Thompson says...
>> >
>> >
>> >"Joe S." wrote in message
>> >news:bjsimf016j7@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> >> "Aligator Al" wrote in message
>> >> news:bjsd470d9t@drn.newsguy.com...
>> >> > Ted wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Odd. I thought that you had done without arty support. Now you are
>> >> > claiming casualties from friendly fire. Perhaps I misread your

>post."
>> >> >
>> >> > This is copied from my post:
>> >> >
>> >> > "Our artillery FO's RTO began to immediately call in artillery. I
>> >remember
>> >> > seeing him not far at all behind me on one knee as he adjusted the

>fire.
>> >> The
>> >> > artillery guns were to our left and with the right hand spin of the
>> >> projectile,
>> >> > he had to give it an "add 25" every fifth round or so. This was to

>move
>> >> the
>> >> > impact 25 meters away from us as the rounds walked to the right as

>the
>> >> tubes got
>> >> > hot. We took a number of friendly casualties from our own artillery."
>> >>
>> >> Do any of the other cannon cockers and former FO's on this newsgroup

>find
>> >> themselves ROTFLAMO at this fairy tale? Someone has been reading too

>many
>> >> Sgt. Rock comic books.
>> >>
>> >> ----
>> >>
>> >> Joe S.
>> >> 2/13 FA
>> >> Vietnam, 69-70
>> >>
>> >
>> >Either the original author was clueless or Deener the Beener took a

>little
>> >poetic license. Right hand spin of the projo has nothing to do with it.
>> >Coriolis effect will cause either a right or left drift in the trajectory
>> >when fired north or south. A due east or west trajectory will cause no
>> >Coriolis drift. Angles of fire between those two extremes will vary in
>> >their Coriolis effect. Firing tables for all Field Artillery have
>> >correction tables for it.
>> >
>> >While not a cannon cocker, I do know that tubes droop from heat and cause
>> >subsequent rounds to walk toward the gun, not "to the right".

>>
>> I quoted it exactly. If the author is wrong then he is wrong, but why did

>it
>> take y'all so long to figure out it is wrong? The only answer is that

>none of
>> y'all knew until you looked it up in a manual.
>> If I were an artilleryman and knew that the author was wrong, I would have
>> spoken up immediately, but where were you and Ted? Probably sliding under

>his
>> computer desk after drinking all day...

>
>Possibly some of the more normal among us do not spend our days glued to the
>computer monitor, waiting for you to post yet another egregious mistake.


That doesn't explain why you took the time to reply to many of my posts which
were all based on just that one. Of course that is exactly what I would expect
of you...
Even though I made the post, I was quoting from a Lieutenant Colonel (Ret.)

What rank did you make, Major?

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Old 09-12-2003, 04:35 PM
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"Alligator Al" wrote in message
>
> What rank did you make, Major?


Sweetheart, I outranked you, on merit, from day one.

ted
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