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Old 07-29-2004, 06:13 AM
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To insure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on
killing us, airport screeners will not be allowed to profile people. They
will continue random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline
pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of
the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips and
Medal of Honor winning former Governors.

Let's pause a moment and take the following test.

In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbutt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.


In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered in his wheelchair and thrown overboard by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver was
murdered by:
a. Captain Kid
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid who had a
few sticks of dynamite left over from the train job:
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation to promote its next villain: Mustapha
the Merciless"
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of
people were murdered by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
Recently, US Border Patrol agents along the Mexican border have noticed a significant increase in infiltration by:

a. Treasure seekers searching for the Lost Dutchman Mine

b. Aliens from other planets who somehow missed Area 51

c. De-frocked Catholic priests

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40




Nope, no patterns anywhere to justify profiling!















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Old 07-29-2004, 06:49 AM
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Last year I flew to Denver. The airport screeners had randomly selected a few passangers for a more extensive search. One of the chosen few was a 3 year old blond hair boy that was meaner than a rattle snake. This kid was not going to coorporate. He broke loose from his parents and the chase was on. If you can picture a crowded airport with 2 parents and 2 screeners chasing this screeming kid while all the people in the area are laughing their ass off or booing the screeners.

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Old 07-29-2004, 09:06 AM
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Paradox of the ages: The first name on the first page of the first volume of the first book of ?Great Satins? to be slain by the Islamic terrorists are those who espouse the cause of any form of civil liberties what so ever.
Oops, I forgot. It?s not PC to say, ?Islamic terrorist? because that?s judgmental, eh. Damn, I hate it when that happens. How about, ?apparently discontented non-secular persons?. Yah, that?s better. Dodged that bullet, huh, and the local office of the ACLU can stand down on that flub. Had them PC cops all excited for a moment, he he.

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Old 07-29-2004, 09:16 AM
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It seems today that if a minority of people (even 1) is offended by something, they can go to court and have it ruled unconstitutional. So why has no one taken the ACLU to court and have it ruled unconstitutional? I'm sure they have offended a few people.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:08 AM
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Revwardoc - Tottally agree with you don't see any pattern of profiling, ummm...what's with the constent selection for muslims?
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:42 PM
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I don't know if this is true or not. You'll have to judge for yourselves.

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http://www.tombstonetumbleweed.com/t...IX%20WEEKS.htm

TWO GROUPS OF MIDDLE-EASTERN INVADERS CAUGHT IN COCHISE COUNTY IN PAST SIX WEEKS



Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, ?I guarantee it?s not true.?

However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public.


The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTM?s, ?other than Mexicans? east to the Chiricahua Mountains.
Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are ?green?, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. ?Our policy is to turn any OTM?s over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security,? Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.


For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as ?people from all over the world?.
In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.
On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent.


According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. ?One thing?s for sure: these guys didn?t speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic?this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and we?re told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to,? said the agent, who spoke to the Tumbleweed with the promise of anonymity.


Adame confirms the groups of illegals were apprehended on those dates in the same area but stated, ?There were no middle easterners in the group. Every single one of them was Mexican.?


The field agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description ?A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches.?
The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. The rancher reports that groups of heavily armed paramilitary drug smugglers have also been seen in the same area.
?We?ve had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. And of course we have the drug mules again and many are carrying automatic weapons. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again to the Willcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Willcox station, and they?re so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I don?t know how many they catch but they?re coming through here heavy right now.?


On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:52 PM
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http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=842422004

Terrorists attempt fresh wave of US hijackings

JAMES HALL
FOREIGN EDITOR



Key points
? Terrorists thought to have targeted at least two US flights in dry-run attacks
? 9/11 Commission warns attack worse than Twin Towers 'probable'
? Cameras caught 9/11 terrorists setting off security alarms prior to hijacking

Key quote
"Every expert with whom we spoke told us an attack of even greater magnitude is now possible and even probable. We do not have the luxury of time" - Tom Kean, chairman 9/11 commission

Story in full DEVASTATING new evidence has emerged that terrorists are preparing another attack on the United States, with air marshals and flight crews reporting a series of dry runs for attacks on aircraft in mid-air.

At least two flights are thought to have been targeted so far by groups of Middle Eastern men who appear to be forming a plan of attack.

On one flight an air marshal reportedly broke into an onboard toilet to find that a mirror had been removed and that a Middle Eastern man was trying to break through a wall to the cockpit.

One air marshal told the Washington Times newspaper yesterday: "No doubt these are dry runs for a terrorist attack."

The revelation came on the day a major US report into the 11 September attacks warned that another attack was likely.

The commission recommended an overhaul of the country?s intelligence services to prevent al-Qaeda launching more deadly plots against America.

Warning that an attack "of even greater magnitude" than the one that killed almost 3,000 people in 2001 was "probable", the commission accused the Clinton and Bush administrations of failing to have sufficient imagination to have envisaged al-Qaeda?s lethal plot.

Tom Kean, the chairman of the commission, said: "Every expert with whom we spoke told us an attack of even greater magnitude is now possible and even probable. We do not have the luxury of time.

"We must prepare and we must act. The al-Qaeda network and its affiliates are sophisticated, patient, disciplined and lethal."

Airline staff and passengers have catalogued repeated incidents that suggest new attacks are in preparation.

"It?s happening and it?s a sad state of affairs," one pilot said.

On one flight last month, 14 Syrian men on a flight between Detroit and Los Angeles boarded the flight, sitting apart. They pretended to be strangers, according to those on board, but once airborne they started filing in and out of the plane?s toilets. When the plane was about to land, the men shot up to different toilets, arousing the suspicions of air crew, passengers and air marshals.

However, air marshals who monitored the incident said there was no "legal basis on which to take enforcement action".

In another incident, the Washington Times revealed, a flight attendant reported a passenger using a long lens to take photographs of the cockpit door.

Earlier this year, it was revealed that Islamic militants had found a new way to circumvent security systems at airports. Instead of trying to take bombs onto aircraft, they would place the components on board, which they can then assemble in mid-flight.

Security sources told newspapers that the tactic had already been tried out, again in dry-run form, on flights between the Middle East, North Africa and western Europe.

As early as November, the FBI was warning that "terrorists are considering the use of improvised explosive devices assembled on board to hijack an aircraft".

Security agencies around the globe are now trying to track down the militants that have been trained to carry out such attacks.

The activities are a terrifying echo of the meticulous planning of the hijackers involved in the 11 September plot, which was comprehensively detailed in yesterday?s report by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

The 567-page final report issued by the ten-member commission pointed to "deep institutional failings" and missed opportunities to thwart the hijackings carried out by al-Qaeda operatives.

"Terrorism was not the overriding national-security concern for the US government under either the Clinton or the pre-9/11 Bush administrations," the report said.

It said that on at least nine occasions, chances were missed that might have led to the uncovering of the plot.

Overnight, US television networks broadcast a newly released surveillance video from Washington?s Dulles International Airport on the morning of the attacks that investigators view as one of the missed opportunities.

The video shows five hijackers passing through security checkpoints. Four of them repeatedly set off alarms but were quickly cleared to board the flight that later crashed into the Pentagon. It was not clear what set the alarms off.

The commission was sweeping in its recommendations for change.

It proposed the appointment of a national intelligence director and the creation of a national counter-terrorism centre to better co-ordinate and share information about future terrorist threats.

"The national intelligence director should oversee national intelligence centres to provide all-source analysis and plan intelligence operations for the whole government on major problems," the report said.

The commission also said the US government must do more domestically to guard against future terrorist attacks, including measures such as setting national standards for issuing drivers? licences and other identification, improving "no-fly" and other terrorist-watch lists and using more biometric identifiers to screen travellers at ports and borders.

Other recommendations included declassifying intelligence spending, upgrading the computer technology used by US intelligence and reorganising congressional oversight.

Given new warnings about al-Qaeda?s desire to strike again on a mass scale, James Thompson, commission member, said all US leaders would be wise to take the commission?s findings to heart.

"If it happens and we haven?t moved, then the American people are entitled to make very fundamental judgments about that," he said.

The commission?s vice-chairman, Lee Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman, appealed for political unity at the heights of America?s power. A "shift in mindset and organisation" within the US intelligence apparatus and a smoother transition between presidencies were also necessary, he said, to ensure "that this nation does not lower its guard every four or eight years".

"The US government has access to vast amounts of information but it has a weak process, a weak system of processing and using that information," Mr Hamilton said. "Need to share must replace need to know."

However, it will be months if not years before such recommendations can be implemented. Yet many terrorism experts fear that al-Qaeda is planning a terrorist attack in the next four months, in the run-up to the November presidential elections.

"They [the 11 September hijackers] penetrated the defences of the most powerful nation in the world," Mr Kean said. "They inflicted unbearable trauma on our people, and at the same time they turned international order upsidedown."

Mr Kean said the US was "faced with one of the greatest security challenges in our long history".
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Gee this makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, ya know what I mean?
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There was a woman arrested here at an airport in TX. She came in illegally from Mexico. Had some african passport that had pages ripped out. Oh and she is on the FBI watch list for terrorist.

The sucky part is that things are going to be changing. Its not just going to be the men, seems there are plenty of evil women out there, and plenty of evil people flat.

My great uncle who is dying ofbladder cancer(VA put off surgery to long, he is a navy vet)was selected for one of these searchs. He is confined to a wheel chair and has to have oxygen most often than not. He is a real threat I tell ya.
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boy oh boy, they just keep getting bolder don't they. Guess everydog has its day.
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