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Old 11-17-2008, 08:31 AM
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The enactment of a "single payer" socialist health care system; passing laws to make joining a labor union easier; raising the minimum wage and increasing labor union support – all these are just some of the policies the Community Party USA has mapped out as crucial for Obama to push through during his term of office.
Just days after the party's official newspaper lauded the role of labor unions in Obama's election victory, another article in the Communist Party's Political Affairs magazine by leading party member and Rutgers University history professor Norman Markowitz outlined the kind of "change" he expects Obama to bring to the U.S.: "For the people who elected Obama and the increased Democratic majority," Markowitz writes, "'change we can believe in' isn't about bailouts for corporations and banks. It isn't about wearing American flag pins on your lapel. ... It is about ending the post-World War II policies that led to the long-term stagnation and decline of the labor movement," Markowitz writes. "It is about creating a national public health care program more than 50 years after it was established in other major industrial nations, and handling a national debt which has increased 10 times since Ronald Reagan became president in 1981."

Markowitz urges Obama to implement a "single payer" national health system, or socialized universal medicine. "A 'single payer' national health system ... should be an essential part of the change that the core constituencies which elected Obama desperately need," he writes. As an Illinois state senator, Obama publicly supported universal healthcare and previously expressed support for "single payer," although he later waffled. He also co-sponsored the Bernardin Amendment, which did not pass but which would have amended the Illinois State Constitution to add healthcare to the list of basic rights for residents.


Markowitz also expressed hope Obama will pass the Employee Free Choice Act, which he says would make joining a union easier and would relax current requirements on creating unions. [This 'Act' also calls for the elimination of secret ballots, opening the way for union goons and thugs to intimidate the voting members.] Markowitz calls for labor unions to "expand the base of union voters who supported Obama by nearly 50 points on Nov 4."


In an article last week titled, "Special Interest or Class Consciousness? How Labor Put Obama in the White House," Political Affairs reported on polling data released that revealed the extent of union support for Obama. The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, or AFL-CIO, sponsored a poll showing union members supported Obama by a 68-30 margin and strongly influenced their family members. According to the survey, Obama won among white men who are union members by 18 points. Union gun-owners backed Obama by 12 points, while union veterans voted for Obama by a 25-point margin. In the general population, Obama lost these groups by significant margins. Political Affairs quoted AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, a longtime member of the Boston chapter of the Democrat Socialists for America, expressing hope labor unions can continue working with Obama.

"We have taken the first crucial steps to build a better future for our children and grandchildren. And what we've seen – the stunning voter participation and the common call for change – is an indication of the history we can continue to make together," Sweeney said. "The election is just step one in delivering the change we need," Sweeney said. "Working men and women are poised to keep the energy pumping to help the Obama administration lead. … There will be no gap or letdown."


In his article, Markowitz goes on to suggest how Obama can win many Americans who voted for Sen. John McCain: "The best way to win over the portion of the working class in the South or the West that supported McCain and the Republicans is to create important new public programs [can you spell 'creating another entitlement class? Didn't I already tell you was going to happen?} and improve the social safety net. National health care, significantly higher minimum wages, support for trade union organizing, aid to education should all be on the agenda. These programs will improve the quality of our lives directly, giving us greater security and establishing the social economic changes that will bring reluctant voters into the Obama coalition. That is how progress works," he writes. [NOTE: to liberals, socialists, and communists ... there I go, repeating myself again, ... 'progress' is defined as creating bigger government, lessening the amount of freedoms and liberties one has, and raising taxes to pay for their folly.]

The New Zeal blog, which researched connections between Obama and the Communist Party USA, commented: "The best way to determine the Obama administration's likely agenda is to read the communist press. Very few US voters would have any inkling that the approximately 3,000 members of the Communist Party USA have a huge influence on the policy and direction of the Democratic Party."
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:21 AM
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The terms "socialist" and "communist" have been defined in a bewildering variety of ways. When reading them it is always important to know what the writer means by them. For Marx socialism was the more comprehensive term; communism was an advanced stage of socialism. Socialism would prepare the way by nationalizing the "means of production" (factories, farms, mines, transportation, etc.) and putting them under the control of those he viewed as the sole producers of wealth: the workers. He viewed political equality and freedom as incomplete (or even illusory) without economic equality. Therefore this redistribution of economic power was aimed at extending democracy far beyond the limits envisioned by earlier democratic revolutions. Social services like health, education, and housing would be provided free, but people would still be paid wages according to their work.

In reading Marx`s Communist Manifesto, simply substitute the word “Bougeoisie” for wealthy and it becomes very clear how B. Hessein Obama has formed his political philosophy,ie: ‘Change From the Bottom Up’ and ‘I Am The One You Have Been Waiting For’,etc.

This is terrifying stuff, people…you need to wake up and smell the coffee before it`s too late. If you haven`t yet done so, read the Communist Manifesto and see how similar Karl Marx in 1848 and Obama 2008 really are.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:27 AM
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Obama`s reply to 'Joe the Plumber':
"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody"

This IS MARXISM..Pure and Simple.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:33 AM
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"If we don't wake up as a nation with a new kind of leadership...for how we want this country to work, then we won't get universal health care," she said.

"The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more." Michelle Obama
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:40 AM
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At a San Francisco fundraiser in 2004- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., told wealthy supporters the government will need to take money away from them for the "common good."


Clinton headlined an appearance with other women Democratic senators in San Francisco, where donors gave as much as $10,000 to California Sen. Barbara Boxer's campaign.

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
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There's an intersting choice of words being used by the socialists, whose definitions are not lost on us informed folks. "... going to have to give up a piece of the pie..." "... spread the wealth around..." "... We're going to take things away from you..." From the very words of either Hillary, Michelle or Barack the bastard himself, we now know or have had reinforced prior beliefs, what the socialists/communists are going to do. And since our resident liberals haven't uttered a word to the contrary, one mus assume that the socialist/communist position is OK with them, ergo they are all one and the same. Since communism embraces atheism as one of its tenets, I guess we can conclude that communism is of and from the devil himself. But hey, I'm just one of 'those' who clings to my religion and my guns....
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It's too bad that all you both say about: "Democrat/Socialist/Leftist Political Supremacists posing as Liberals" is pretty-much overall in America kept-under-the-rug and/or largely censored.

The sad realities are that only: "The Second Coming" or Barack's slickness, smoothness, how well spoken or: "Cool" the phony is, can be publicly and/or basically mainstream press/media be discussed.

Never mind his having the most suspect of backgrounds, friends & associates of a candidate (now President Elect) EVER in American History, just mention his birth given middle name of Hussein and be treated as if perpetrating some foul ethnic Hate Crime.

Seems to me that when President, All Leaders & Press are all tied in together and think AS ONE,...such pretty-much describes The Old Soviet Union. Think me exaggerating?

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Not too much of a stretch, Neil. Not from where I sit anyhow.
Look, there`s a huge disconnect appearing in our homeland when an avowed Communinist domestic terrorist is a professor at the University of Chicago spewing his unamerican hatred agenda to our children. Oh, and he just happens to be a pal of the president-elect! Are you kidding me?
The Commies finally have their fox, not only in the henhouse, but the whole freakin farm is in danger ..
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First-off, I honestly hope that You, Brice and all other Sane & Sensible TRUE Patriots (myself included) are totally wrong assessing that America is now Totally One Party Ruled, Controlled & Dominated? Hell,...even fairly benign Political Dictatorships as what America has evolved into,...are still nothing more than just Political Dictatorships. Sure We get to vote. But,...so what? So do Illegal Aliens & The Dead.

Plus, WE'RE ALL in same politically induced sinking ship with quite suspect of intent & allegiance staunch ideologues now at the helm, whom totally control America's paths, policies and Very Survival as A Sovereign Nation.

Disgust over what Our Democracy has been politically forced degenerating into aside, I believe that your: "The Commies finally have their fox,.........", only touches on what in store for we Under Islamic Attack & At War Americans. Besides, Communists NEVER EVER relinquish sovereignty as Democrat Leaders/Rulers so typically do or intend doing.

Regardless, President Elect Barack Hussein Obama II or Junior's very own words from his book: "The Audacity of Hope" of; "I will stand with Muslims should the winds change in an ugly direction", portends even worse of; "A fox in the hen house" for all We Americans (The U.S. Military inclusive). Which, brings me right back to my starting: "First-off, I honestly hope..." statement.

After all, and given the past about 2 years of Total Democrat Control of U.S. Congress Wartime Undermining Antics (ala Nancy Pelosi style), and now clean sweep Total Political Control of America,...such doesn't paint a very pretty picture for rest of We: "UN-Connected", unaffiliated and/or not somehow beholding to government U.S. Citizens.

Damn-it-all, Griz. I honestly hope I'm wrong and just not: "Whistlin Dixie" in scenic downtown Washington, DC?

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I certainly hope and pray that we`re all wet too,Neil. I honestly do, but you have to recognize the misalignment of the galaxies..or perhaps the stars are quite in line.
Ironic: we fought against the Reds, where most of us here have personal stock invested, for pretty much the whole 20th century and suddenly now in the 21st we capitulate? Remember how we scoffed at Nakita Krushev as he banged his shoe on the table and proclaimed America`s grandchildren would be raised under communism? Was this merely a wish, or mabe a prophesy?
I`m positive that most "Wright" thinking citizens will lable us as loons for even suggesting B Hussein Obama`s ties to Marxism/Communism will influence his governance but this head will not remain entrenched in the sand.
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