Vietnam War Before 1964

[Arrow]

Travis,

I don't know how much you want to tell us concerning your disability but if it is service connected Billr on the site may be able to helpyou with any questions you have.

Could you give some direction as to where to find the links to the documentation you were speaking of on your website.

Peace,

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[travisab1]

To Mother Margaret & Little Sparrow;
If you click on profile under one of my posts you'll see my website. http://www.toppayfortemps.com when you get to the website at the top you'll see text under the Top Pay For Temps about information concerning the Vietnam War. Click on the text and it'll take you to another page within my website with all sorts of information about the Vietnam War & the VVB/Veteran's Coalition etc...
While your there click on the Remember 9/11 candle. It will take a long time to load up because of all the graphic's/audio with President Bushs' narration behind it. There you'll see scenes most of which weren't shown on TV and a lot of explanation that will bring tears to your eyes.
Also while you're there you can click on the Radioman 1st Navy patch and see the ship I was on and all of The ships history. Pictures of the Atomic Bomb Blast that turned the whole Port side of my ship black,(Operation Swordfish). Also you said you lived in Bremmerton back in 60 & 61. Under my photo restoration button you can see a picture of me on my ship back in 61 when we first got underweigh with those beautiful mountains in the background after the fram job in Puggit Sound. I had to restore the picture as well. I was serving as a mess cook at the time. A sort of a hazing of the times back then.
Mother Margaret, I've been offered a lot of those deals to live in housing but as long as I can get out there and travel, I don't want anyone looking over my shoulder seeing and telling me what I can and can't do while living in those special housings etc...
I went to the Gulf twice back in 1991 as a MM carrying class A & B explosives for our Veteran's over there. I drank a lot of near beer there. Believe it or not Booze is sold there in places like the PX and Howard Johnsons, major hotel chains, etc... Those Arab's have been known to put a bottle or two away also, sort of like us Baptist here in the states. Closet drinkers, you know. Don't let no one kid you. It just cost about $40.00 and above for a fifth of whiskey over there that we paid $7.00 for here. We brought back a lot of soldiers, tanks, weapons and etc... from Saudi. No one ever mentioned anything about depleted Uranium etc... either way. I wish I knew then what I know now. I don't think my problems are from wars but now thanks to a reference you gave me I can find out. I didn't know about the syndrome going back to the 50's.
I didn't mean for pity on living in my van. This is my choice. It's cheaper and I have a sauna about 20 yards from me and a swimming pool about the same. The pool is a little frozen over but the sauna would work if I asked Matt to turn it on.
You folks have a good year this 2004. I'm going to and thanks for the replies. If there's anything else I can do, please let me know.
Regards,
Travis

[David]

travisab1 by ICBM's do you mean Anti-Submarine Rocket (ASROC)?
Also, is Denver located in South Dakota? I was under the impression Denver was located in Colorado.

[travisab1]

David:
You're right, ASROC is the Anti-Submarine Rocket. It was also classified as an Inner Continental Ballistic Missile,(ICBM)
Below are some references to the Missile. At the time this was the most powerful weapon against subs ever made and had the capabilities of carrying nuclear Warheads where if you go to my ships website at http://www2.symet.net/wdoyle/ and go to the pictures and look for Operation Swordfish Photo you'll see what an Atomic Warhead underwater explosion looks like. My ship was 2,000 yards from that explosion. I was on an LST watching it. It burnt the whole Port side of the Bausell Black. We had to go back aboard and clean up all that mess. The dosimeters we wore went haywire as we went back onboard. You might check into just who all were involved in the Vietnam War other than the French & the good ole' US of A
As far as where I live...
You can go to travisglenn@hotmail.com and get another address for me. Again, your right, Denver is in Colorado. But Sturgis is in SD. I may be in Yuma, Arizona tomorrow. You see, I live in my van. Where I hang my hat is my home. I usually don't hang my hat anymore, I just put it on the dashboard. You can go to travisab1@excite.com and get another address or go to travisab@gwtc.net and get another or... well...maybe you see what I mean by now. If I changed my profile evrytime I moved I wouldn't have time to answer all my E-Mails.
Regards,
Travis
http://www.gyrodynehelicopters.com/asroc.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/vla.htm
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/asroc.htm

[David]

Interesting material. It seems a bit over the top to use nuclear depth charges but then maybe they needed such range with the Russians. Inner Continental Ballistic Missile I had never heard of before. This is something I will look further into. Don't mind me on the address thing, I just keep an eye on things around here. Welcome to the site and thank you for all of your informative posts

[travisab1]

David;
No problem. I don't want to fight with my fellow Veteran's. I want to help them. By helping them I help myself, my kid's and hopefully all will benefit. We've just got to stick together and fight the people that are pocketing the money that was designated to the Veteran's and their beneficiaries. Our fellow Veteran's are coming back from Iraq injured & dead. Just because they got hurt falling off a balcony in a fight with a fellow Veteran or what ever this is being noncombat related and receiving compensation is almost impossible. I hope you see what I mean. If he wasn't there, it would not have happened. STRESS is a terrible thing and can cause immediate hostilities among comrades.
Regards,
Travis

[Seascamp]

Hello Travis,
Welcome aboard Sailor. I may have my wires crossed a bit as the ASROC I was aware of was deck launched from a box launcher of eight as I recall or maybe it was six.
The missile had a solid fuel rocket, was about 16 ft ?20 ft. long, a range of a few thousand yards and then the rocket separated from the torpedo and the torpedo parachuted in to the sea. At that time the parachute was dumped the torpedo and took off.

The torpedo had an active sonar guidance system and was programmed to cycle around ten times at varying depth in order to acquire a target. Is this the ASROC you refer to or was there a longer-range anti submarine missile? Could be as I?m not at all current on Navy weps systems other than to point and go ?Oh, look at that thang?, LOL.

Seems like what you describe maybe a missile for a boomer boat as that could be called an ICBM, sort of.

Anyway, welcome aboard

Scamp

[travisab1]

Scamp;

You're right. Those naughty Russian's back in those days were not going to spoil our fun even if we had to torpedo them with a nuclear warhead. If my memory serves me right a single ASROC also called an ICBM, (inner continental ballistic missile) could easily wipe out an aircraft carrier and anything escorting it for miles around.

Maybe I'm wrong. However in a few posts back I left 3 link's to URL's on the ASROC. Also a link to my ship with pictures of the underwater Atomic Bomb Blast that burnt the Bausell's whole Port side black. Thank GOD we were all on an LST watching this take place. Also pictures of the launcher and hanger deck on my destroyer, the USS Bausell DD 845, also referred to as the "Mighty B." Also a link to my URL.

Thanks for the welcome to this most workable Website I've seen so far. Here, we can change the way us Veteran's are treated/mistreated. We can get and keep good honest people in office that will fight for us like we fight for our country and our rights and the freedom that most took for granted until 911. We still have a few out there that think our President should have confronted the Terrorist with a Naughty, Naughty, Naughty you bad little Terrorist. Now don't do that again.

Some people think our freedom can be preserved by talking to people that just don't like our face if you know what I mean.

Here everybody pulls together and are keeping the ball rolling. Together we can reach a number of those goals that were only talked about in the year's past.
Regards,
Travis

[reconeil]

Regarding when The Vietnam War started, I must believe about 1956 or7. I so state, since that was about when my first outfit (10th Recon Co) was disbanded in Germany, and we most all became The Cadre for the newly established 3rd Recon Sqdn/7th Cavalry,...which denied any of us from volunteering for another and simultaneously being established, new and elite outfit.

In fact, people from 10th Recon were the only personnel in The 10th Division not permitted to volunteer for the new and battalion size 10th Special Forces, "Green Berets" and/or forerunners of the many Special Forces to date.

So then, and since Special Forces Advisors never even existed before about 1956 or7, I figure that's as good of a time as any for showing when America first got involved in Vietnam.

Besides,...didn't The French get their clocks cleaned good and proper in Vietnam,...in 1954?

Neil

[Seascamp]

I just got a memory flash. In the movie ?The Bedford Incident? an ASROC with a nuke tip was used to whip up on a Soviet sub as I recall.

When we were undergoing anti-sub warfare training exercises we used ASROC with rubber warheads including a huge magnet and a powerful ringer. Funny how those USN subs would just haul buns to the surface to turn that ringer off and then give us the long distance evil eye and single digit salute. Oh well, at least that kept them honest about scoring a kill. Not that they would cheat or anything like that, of course not.

Scamp