London

[BLUEHAWK]

Originally posted by Bill Farnie I thought David opened a conspiracy drivel, oops I mean theory,
forum?

We did have such a forum as everyone knows...

However, those who do not think of their postings as "conspiracy theory" are unlikely to post them there

[Seascamp]

I find it interesting that the conspiracy theory presses are rolling red hot and the scribes seem to have it all figured out before all the bodies have been retrieved or the investigation gets going in earnest. Way good sleuths or maybe they are just Easter Egging and cherry picking as usual, but there is money to be made and daylight is a burning I suppose.

I?ll be real interested to find out what the explosives chemical finger prints turn out like. First indication is that it was real powerful and sophisticated explosive used. If so, there will be chemical finger prints that are traceable to a manufacturer and that could get interesting.

Scamp

[Arrow]

The rest ofwhat Arrow said...

The world was warned about this, warned and warned and warned again. An invasion based on lies and disinformation, an occupation that grinds a civilian populace, becomes the perfect machine to manufacture terrorists who will happily die in order to see others die.

That ispure unadultrated bullshit!I sincerely doubt that thepeople that pulled this off come from some backwater hell hole in the Middle East. I will even venture to say they are highly sophisiticated, educated, and well financed, they could even be home grown right there in the UK.They have been educated in the west, they have enjoyed the freedoms of Western society, they are well fed, well traveled, and they know how to hide in plain sight.

They are educated, but with a fatal flaw, their souls have been infused with thepoison of the radical muslim mullahs.These people didn't just spring up out of the desert day before yesterday. They have been trained from their youth to believe the most honorable thing they can do is to kill the infidels anddestroy all of Western civilization.

The other certainty: Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair bear the responsibility for this wretched act, as well. They decided in April of 2002 to start a war based on false pretenses, to fix the intelligence and facts around the policy, and now the whirlwind has come to be reaped. The blood that runs in the streets of London, and in the streets of Baghdad, Fallujah, Tikrit and Mosul, is on their hands

Well, if that is so every major political player of every political persuasionin this countrywas in on that one!I've got some lakefront property in Arizona to sell you if you believe you are going to get a bunch of politicians of different political persusaion to agree to commit to a conspiracy that will undoubtedly come back and bite them in thebutt!

Horse apples is what we have here folks. Watch your step!

[reconeil]

Truly well stated.
Naturally I only refer to your blue and/or quite sensible, honest and realistic copy.

Still, it sad for America that so much of The Black (both ways) copy and/or politically-purposeful America Undermining dribble (so common) prevailing in the overall mainstream press/media,...and so echoingly repeated over and over and over daily adnauseam, even exists during wartime. What an an embarassing and f----n national-shame.

So then, I guess that it fair saying that if We Americans keep getting publicly-waltzed-around continually by such warped zealots and/or enemy terrorist political cheerleaders having the most voice in America,...America is in deeper-shit than anyone could ever imagine.

Whatever Arrow, keep up the good fight and keep pluggin,...and maybe logic, common sense and honesty will eventually prevail over insanely nationally-suicidal or self/clique-serving political oneupsmanships (ABOVE ALL ELSE), as such career political bullshiters perpetrate on We Americans daily?

Hey,...you never can tell? Miracles do happen.
Though,...hopefully before too late?

Neil

[Arrow]

So then, I guess that it fair saying that if We Americans keep getting publicly-waltzed-around continually by such warped zealots and/or enemy terrorist political cheerleaders having the most voice in America,...America is in deeper-shit than anyone could ever imagine

Neil...

If the acts of warcommitted against this country from Lebanon to Yeman to Africa to NYC won't convince people that we have a deadly enemy I know no amount of calling bs "what it is"willchange their mind.

But peace at any price can get you killed.Silence when you're in a roomwith aboa watchin'it digestthe rabbitit had for lunch knowin' you're what it's gettin for dinnercanalso getyou killed.For reasons unknown to me I've never been fit for either scenerio.

I guess that would be seen as a "character" flaw by thosewith the "most voice" inthis countryand that notion may be the very reason America may be in deeper sh*t than we could ever imagine.

Arrow>>>>>.

[BLUEHAWK]

Originally posted by Arrow



I guess that would be seen as a "character" flaw by thosewith the "most voice" inthis countryand that notion may be the very reason America may be in deeper sh*t than we could ever imagine.

Arrow>>>>>.

Their voice isn't the "most", it's just the the loudest and most irritating sometimes.

[Seascamp]

As we watch the events in London unfold, I?m thinking what we will see is the well exercised multi-level structure that has been used successfully throughout the Mid-east. Due to the very nature of minimal educational beliefs; girls get none, boys just get a marginal amount, plus a Madrasa seminary indoctrination, there is an extreme over abundance of potential bomb carriers and a paucity of higher educated ones that can set up a target, set up the explosive device and make sure the bomb carrier gets to the target destination.
This is cookie cutter Hamas SOP that is being replicated in Iraq and now possibly London. Early body parts evidence suggests that the bomb may have been on the lap of some individuals but triggered by a timer. This would seem to follow the scenario where little choice or freedom of action is given to or expected from the bomb carrier. If this plays out, then we need to consider the proposition that the bomb carriers can be secreted into an open society and hidden away by a compliant community until the appointed moment.
In this scenario only absolute minimal contact or knowledge of the surrounding community would be required and only a highly expendable and readily renewable human resource is sacrificed. If this well proven and effective suicide bomber procedure goes global, then I?m thinking that Sis?s thought of being in deep shit may be an understatement.
Given the totally open border situation we have both north and south and total freedom of ground mobility inside our borders, I?m not optimistic we can do a lot but continue to sit around and ague and engage in leveraged finger pointing. My bet is that these multi level structures are already set up in the US and I don?t think it would take a lot to escort a bomb carrier across our borders, have them all set up and waiting, and good to go.

Scamp

[SuperScout]

For decades, we Americans have been waltzing around the beast that has infiltrated into our living rooms, and as we gaze across yon pond, we see the even larger monster now occupying multiple areas in a multitude of countries. This unwanted beast of unchecked and often illegal immigration is now morphing into a carnivorous demon, and has already whetted its appetite on American soil, and now in its latest food bowl, London. And as free people, we need to rid ourselves of the fear of being labeled racists, and start profiling immigrants and would-be immigrants. The sooner we realized that it is not Swedish grandmas planting these bombs, but young Muslim cretins, the better off the free world will be. We need to surveil the mosques, and if we hear one word of anti-American threats, the deportation airplane gets revved up, and one-way tickets are issued. This is not a legal issue anymore, but an issue of survival, and in war, things get done very tidily, albeit sans extraneous legalities.

[Chevelle]

...it profiling, call it survival,...

...as soon as the first series hits home here as it did in London, you'll see more the the relocation plane warming up,...

..I don't want to imagine people of our Nation taking up arms here, but if one of my own was to be injured/ killed by sucha device on a bus/ train etc. I would be out there shooting as many of them as I could find until I'm out of ammunition, and that would take some doin',...

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[Seascamp]

Part of Spain?s not so secret quid pro quo arrangement with the Moslem terrorists was to suspend illegal immigration interdiction efforts across the straights of Gibraltar and all Spanish shorelines. That much has been publicly stated, but not the back room deals cut, of course not. Zo, it would seem the underbelly has been split open and France has hell to pay on their Southern border, sans a French stand tough situation, the highway to Europe has been left wide open. But as a boobie prize, Spain states that they will redouble their anti-terrorism efforts. But on the other hand, they did not define whom the terrorists are that they going to redouble their efforts against. Maybe they meant the Basque Separatists, who knows.
Why is it that history just keep repeating over and over again? I presume some Spanish politico held up a bit of paper and declared ?Peace in our Time?, eh. Peace until the bloody beast needs another Spanish condiment to go with the rest of the gory meal is my take.

Scamp