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Old 09-03-2006, 02:28 PM
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Thanks, Keith. You are right on.

You put everything into better words than I.
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So Covan you get to tell me that I take items out of perspective without an answer to the question 'what items'


"""""Ron,

Read closely: "Medal of Honor presented by the Veterans of Foreign Wars." The Congressional Medal of Honor is presented by the President. You seem to take items out of context.


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Old 09-04-2006, 09:22 AM
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Ron,

I told you what you took out of context. In your post you left off the phrase "presented by the Veterans of Foreign Wars", leading readers to assume they should research his entitlement to the Congressional Medal of Honor presented by the President of the United States in the name of Congress.

I don't believe you know how to do any legitimate research of your own and take statements such as this out of context and intentionaly, or otherwise mislead, the readers of this forum into believing incorrect information. These types of errors are then compounded when they are repeated.
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I left a little more than that out of the Medal of Honor post. Like'

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The Real Glenn Ford Story


This article was written by NewsMax.com columnist and contributor Phil Brennan, a proud Marine.

When Glenn Ford died Thursday morning at the age of 90, major media recalled his long Hollywood career, recalling the 106 films in which he appeared, his many marriages and romances. Wrote the Associated Press, "He was a star to the end of his career."


Glenn Ford was far more than that, yet none of the obituaries bothered to mention his extraordinary patriotism or his distinguished military career. Ford rose to the rank of Captain in the United States Navy after years of dedicated service that began with World War II and continued through the Vietnam War.



He was undoubtedly a star, one of Hollywood's enduring major stars, but as his biography on a Web site devoted to his long life states, his accomplishments were even larger than life off-screen. As his son Peter once told NewsMax.com, Ford was "one of those Ronald Reagan, true-blue American types."


At the beginning of World War II Glenn served in the Coast Guard Auxiliary. In 1942 he enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. As a Marine he helped build safe houses in occupied France for those hiding from the Nazis and was among the first Americans to enter the infamous Dachau concentration camp at war?s end. He went on to serve in the Navy and at war's end he was commissioned a Commander in the Naval Reserves.


Committed to service in the armed forces, Ford also served two tours of duty in Vietnam with the Third Marine Amphibious Force in 1966-1968. He once went on a jungle mission with a Special Forces Team during the Vietnam War. Ford was the only actor to have served with both the Green Berets and the French Foreign Legion and his military record is well recognized in both the United States and France as a highly decorated veteran.

Among his numerous medals and commendations are the Medal of Honor presented by the Veterans of Foreign Wars; the Medaille de la France Libre for the liberation of France; two commendation medals from the U.S. Navy; and the Vietnamese Legion of Merit. He received the rank of Captain with the U.S. Naval Reserves in 1968; retiring in 1977.



Ford bravely served his country in two wars (not on the sidelines, but in the front lines) facing enemy fire on many occasions and never expecting to be treated like a Hollywood star but as a fellow fighting man. He was indeed a hero both on and off the screen.


That's the way Glenn Ford would want to be remembered.


Two years ago he told NewsMax.com, "Let's never forget that to remain free we must always be strong. That's an important lesson I learned in my Navy career in World War II. National defense must be the top priority for our country. If you are strong, you are safe. Now is the time for every American to be proud. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. If we are not brave, we will not be free."


Glenn Ford lived the motto of the Marine Corps, Semper Fidelis -He was always faithful to the nation he served so long and so well.

No One else thought I ment anything by leaving off the VFW but you seem to want to start a thing with me, either don't read anything into my post or just don't read them. Take your pick , Bud.

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Only trying to keep the record of Mr. Ford's accomplishments clean.

Too bad the original story was so flawed. I have also written an email to NewMax and the so-called contributor of that story. If they can't get it accurate it should not be written. Too bad they don't have enough money to do fact checking. Now it is out here and everyother biographer will pick up the inaccuracies.
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Clean?
And just a little info, The Medal of Honor and Congressional Medal of Honor are the same thing.
Matter of fact the name of the Medal is Medal of honor and not congressioal Medal of honor. We have been calling it the Congressional medal of honor for so long it kinda took over as the name of the medal.
And I could give a shit about Fords accomplishments . He wasn't any better or worse than all the rest of the Navy and Marine personnel and there accomplishments aren't on TV or the internet.

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Old 09-04-2006, 11:33 AM
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On December 9, 1861 Iowa Senator James W. Grimes introduced S. No. 82 in the United States Senate, a bill designed to "promote the efficiency of the Navy" by authorizing the production and distribution of "medals of honor". On December 21st the bill was passed, authorizing 200 such medals be produced "which shall be bestowed upon such petty officers, seamen, landsmen and marines as shall distinguish themselves by their gallantry in action and other seamanlike qualities during the present war (Civil War)." President Lincoln signed the bill and the (Navy) Medal of Honor was born.
Two months later on February 17, 1862 Massachusetts Senator Henry Wilson introduced a similar bill, this one to authorize "the President to distribute medals to privates in the Army of the United States who shall distinguish themselves in battle." Over the following months wording changed slightly as the bill made its way through Congress. When President Abraham Lincoln signed S.J.R. No. 82 on July 12, 1862, the Army Medal of Honor was born. It read in part:Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the President of the United States be, and he is hereby, authorized to cause two thousand "medals of honor" to be prepared with suitable emblematic devices, and to direct that the same be presented, in the name of the Congress, to such non--commissioned officers and privates as shall most distinguish themselves by their gallantry in action, and other soldier-like qualities, during the present insurrection (Civil War)."


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This is now turning into a discussion of semantics over the terms "Medal of Honor" vs. "Congressional Medal of Honor". Since your mind is seemingly closed on this issue and I doubt that you will read it, I would point you to an article written by By David F. Burrelli, Library of Congress, Congressional Research Service, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division at http://www.mishalov.com/Medal_Honor_History_Issues.html

I would submit that a staff member of the Library of Congress would not publish BS, strive diligently to clarify issues, and not further muddy terms.

Further, I would ask why the most prestigious organization of Medal of Honor members belong to the "Congressional Medal of Honor Society"? See http://www.cmohs.org/index.html
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What I wrote above I didn't just make up.
Those are senate Bills, dating back to when the Medal of Honor was introduce to the senat and the president signed into law.
There is no semantics here,
The history of the medal of honor

http://www.cmohs.org/medal/medal_history.htm

I would think the history of the medal of honor wold be better reading than an "artical" by "David F. Burrelli, Library of Congress, Congressional Research Service, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division"
Your right about one thing though, "and I doubt that you will read it"

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