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Old 10-19-2004, 12:52 PM
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For whatever it is worth, some pole digits stats were reported today and a rather interesting bit of stuff popped up. Of those who said they were going to vote Bush, 85% said they were voting for Bush and 15% said were voting against Kerry. Of those going for Kerry, 40 % stated they were voting against Bush and 60% for Kerry. This tells me that Democratic Party loyalty is a big player and Kerry really hasn?t made the sale he intended to. Also tells me Bush has a lot stronger intrinsic support within the camp. I suppose there are other interpretations of this data, but that?s what appears through my somewhat biased glasses. And Doc, I'll watch the returns from MA. I think those huge voting blocks that are predictable as day follows night more or less take MA off the list of states that have more or less individual voters that are up for grabs. For once I hope to be wrong, but I expect MA to be decared almost the moment the poles open.

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Old 10-19-2004, 01:12 PM
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God thanks for the Wisdom of the Founding Fathers! Hey !
Kerry Supporters Tear Bush/Cheney Sign From 3... Kerry Supporters Tear Bush/Cheney Sign From 3..."Adolph" Bush? Are you telling me that these people just walked in with those shirts on for all to see and then were jumped on & tossed out ??? I seriously doubt it happened that way. It is obvious that they intended to get into the rally and when the President began his speech and the cameras were rolling slip of the jacket to display the message on the shirts. It was not to long ago a group of Kerry supporters mugged a guy at one of his rallies for shouting out at him...have the photo some where of him in a headlock hardly free speech and a lot less civility granted him than the group of teachers who merely got a ticket which was dismissed.. Hell we have had your union thugs bust into GOP campaign headquarters beat up one guy and tore up the place. I have never seen this type of malicious behavior by Republicans???
But don't give me any crap about having the last election stolen from you. I you want to talk about a stolen election then we'll talk about how Kennedy robbed Nixon .
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:11 PM
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Re. "Some good info there..."

Still Jerry, you too must see the irony of it all, in that The Republicans don't currently use such historical and quite factual evidence that perpetually and always feigning just the opposite Democrats,...ARE & HAVE BEEN THE ACTUALLY WORST PROBLEM confronting The Social Security System. Currently The Clintons/Kennedy/Kerry Party scare many Senior Citizens with about Social Security IS (just like most all else stated) PURE POLITICAL BULL and/or LIES meant solely for: "Recapturing The White House",...with the help of Duped Seniors.

From Lydon Johnson to date, Democrats have used every possible means to get their-grubby-little-mitts on what was originally intended being The American Citizenry's Old Age Retirement Fund, and NEVER TO BE TAXED. Whatever, most certainly was never intended being ripped-off by Democrat Politicians, treated as just another tax revenue and/or or spent by such Lords of The Manor,...as "They" unilaterally see fit.

Hell Folks, had any smaller American Corporation heads (government being America's LARGEST Corporation) done similarly, diverted or played-fast-and-loose with their people's Old Age Retirement Funds,...The Law would require that any such fraudulent types WOULD DO JAIL TIME,...and rightfully so. Guess that most all Democrats are sacrosanct from such?

Regardless, and in fairness to The can-do-no-wrong (in their minds only) Democrats, "They" most certainly know how to deceptively twist even historical facts and realities proving Democrats as greedy and power and control hungry socialists into their favor,...and quite better than most. Must be because such feigned-caring phonies have been doing so...for so long a time?

Hell, even now The ACTUAL Social Security RIP-OFF-ARTISTS (re. The Democrats) are putting President Bush on the defensive, for daring to propose that younger workers be permitted to put SOME of their FICA contributions into Private Sector Investments (IF PREFERRED),...as if somehow absurdly destroying The Social Security System, while unwarrantedly scaring-the-hell-out-of many seniors into quite self-defeatingly voting Democrat,...to-boot.

I would suggest that Republicans start emphasizing truths about all such phonies and hypocrits,...instead of wasting so-damn-much-time defending themselves against such silly and quite phoney allegations. After all, and continually defending against absurdities, some easily manipulated might believe that such absurdities are actually true and of merit,...while quite the opposite is true.

The truth of the matter from a Democrat perspective being that: "God forbid that some Social Security Monies escape into Private Sector Investments,...since that's so much less WE don't get to play with and/or that WE can patronise or buy more supporters (both foreign and domestic) and/or voters (both foreign and domestic) with".

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Old 10-21-2004, 07:10 PM
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If watching Dems repeatedly lie about Social Security and/or which Party is ACTUALLY ITS BANE (as historically proven about Democrats),...you've got to give The Democrats/feigned Liberals/Socialist/Leftists at least an A+ in The Hypocritical Gall Department. When it comes to perpetually lying and deceiving The People with straight faces,..."They" are just plain good.

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