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Old 04-10-2009, 11:24 AM
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Even though I worked for the Navy, don't they have Marines on their ships anymore? Help me understand this. The CAPT of the Merchant Marine Ship dives into the water from the prison lifeboat and begins swimming toward the Destroyer that's only 200 yards away. Who was not watching this on the ship and why wasn't everyone on the lifeboat shot the second the CAPT got in the water? 200 yards is nothing. All Navy ships have those huge binoculars that they could have counted the flies on each of those Skinnys heads. So why are any of them alive at this moment? The ONLY thing I can think of is they are under orders from somewhere not to do a damn thing. What about a sub letting off some SEALS under them to swim up and kill them all. This is a dark day in America if you ask me. I'm not making this political, I'm just concerned that maybe we need to name the Destroyer something else....like a Bass Boat because it looks like it had it's chance to "destroy" and didn't. I just don't get it.

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Old 04-10-2009, 11:43 AM
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Can`t help you, Tom. I don`t get it either. Only thing that comes to mind is that somewhere, some flag level officer (Or Higher) has ordered the squids not to engage these pieces of excrement; but for the love of God, I have no idea why.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:44 AM
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Did this happen during daylight hours or at night?

Was night vision equipment in use?

I remember the first generation Starlight system, and it wasn't good enough to identify individuals.

How far did the Captain get, and how long before he was discovered missing?

Was there enough time for the Navy to react?
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:51 AM
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You get it Packy. It's a dark day in America. It's a day when our security (or lack there of) will be decided on not what is best for America but will our actions offend the delicate nature of the French, the Saudi's, China, Spain, well, you get the picture. Sis
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The Navy doesn't have Marines on Destroyers. They have gunners mates and guns on the bows.

I emailed GunnerCarvo.

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Old 04-10-2009, 12:14 PM
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Our equipment was stoneage compared to what they have now. If your the Destroyer why wouldn't you have somebody watching that lifeboat 24/7 and either some weapons system or Marines with scopes trained on it. Night or day they should have been counting the flies buzzing around their nappy heads. I'm not saying that they didn't....I'm just wondering what happened when that man was swimming toward them, swimming for his life and what orders that ship has.

Thanks Joy. So would the gunners have weapons trained on the Skinnies? Ask Gunner what capabilities the Destroyer would have. I really don't have a clue whether they have .50's anymore and would there be trained Navy marksmen?

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I don't know how much he'd be able to tell y'all but they do have a 50 cal & gunners are trained in the use of it.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:06 PM
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They have 4 .50 cal machine guns. They also have a SWAT team.
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I was on the ships landing party on a flrtcher class destroyer during vietnam we were all highly trained on the use of all our small arms up to the .50's so if things haven't did a complete 180 I would say some mamby pamby politico has put a dapper on saving the captian. PS with just a helo unrap a coupe squad's of seal's could be deployed to the destroyer. WE have to draw a line in the sea and kill anyone who dares cross it. My stance is the pirates bring in reinforcements thats a declaration of war and should be delt with as such. Sorry to the un armed hostages but if we don't act harshly the war is over before it starts.
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How exactly do these motley pirates threaten these big ships to be able to take them over ? With RPG'S near the bow line ? Don't the oil tankers have double sealed hulls ???

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