More On How John Kerry & Jane Fonda Helped North Vietnam Kill American Soldiers

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As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."

The Wall Street Journal (August 3, 1995) published an interview with
Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and
received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30,
1975. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar
movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was
essential to our strategy" referring to the war being fought on two
fronts, the Vietnam battlefield and back home in America through the
antiwar movement on college campuses and in the city streets. He
further stated the North Vietnamese leadership listened to the
American evening news broadcasts "to follow the growth of the American
antiwar movement." Visits to Hanoi made by persons such as Jane Fonda,
former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and various church ministers
"gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield
reverses."

Mr. Tin surmised that "America lost because of its democracy; through
dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win."
Mr. Tin further advised that General Vo Nguyen Giap (Commanding
General of the North Vietnam Army) said the 1968 Tet Offensive was a
defeat. Gen. Giap in his book, made the same statement, adding that
they were surprised by the news media reporting and the demonstrations
in America. Instead of seeking a conditional surrender, they would
now hold out because America's resolve was weakening and victory could
be theirs.

From 1969 to the end of the war over 20,000 American soldiers lost
their lives in a war that the United States did not have the resolve
to win. If General Giap was accurate in his assessment that North
Vietnam was going to seek a conditional surrender at the Paris Peace
Conference, but stopped due to the sensationalism of the American news
media and the anti-war protests following the 1968 Tet Offensive, it
follows that those who participated in these anti-war activities have
to share partial responsibility for those 20,000 + Americans deaths.

We won the war on the battlefield but lost it back home on the college
campuses and in the city streets.

Americans must realize that there are agents* operating in this
Country attempting to undermine our Country and it's leadership
through our democratic principles in an effort to achieve a foreign
country's goal. A prime example of such a person during the Vietnam
War was Jane Fonda, an admitted Socialist, who blatantly supported
North Vietnam. * Agent - Any person who works to obtain the goals of
another nation either for money or for their own political beliefs.

A valuable lesson was taught by North Vietnam to other nations on how
the United States may be defeated by fighting a two front war - the
battlefield and the American home front. We must be aware of this
vulnerability.

In 1975, after the fall of the South Vietnam Government, Jane Fonda
returned to Hanoi with her newborn son Troy for a celebration in her
honor for the work she had done for North Vietnam. During the
celebration, her son was christened after a Viet Cong hero, Nguyen
Van Troi. Troi had attempted to assassinate Secretary of Defense
Robert McNamara while on his visit to South Vietnam in 1963. The
South Vietnam Government executed Troi for this attempted
assassination.

On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
Kerry) wrote:

>http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
>
>As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
>inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
>Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
>1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
>former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
>guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
>Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
>returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."

Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.

Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.


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and Protector of Mexico, being desirous of allaying
the dissension's of party strife now existing within
our realm,do hereby dissolve and abolish
the Democratic and Republican parties, and also do
hereby degree the disfranchisement and imprisonment,
for not more than ten, nor less than five years, to
all persons leading to any violation of this
our imperial decree. Norton I.
Given at San Francisco, Cal. this 12th day of
August, A.D. 1869"

Norton I.
Emperor of the United States
and Protector of Mexico 1859-1880
--San Francisco Herald, August 13, 1869

John A. Stovall wrote:

> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
> Kerry) wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
>>
>>As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
>>inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
>>Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
>>1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
>>former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
>>guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
>>Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
>>returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
>
>
> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.

aka RhINO, Republican In Name Only http://www.stentorian.com/politics/

McCain also wants to help Gore and Lieberman destroy American jobs
through greenhouse gas regulations: http://www.stentorian.com/kyoto/

--Bill

Bill Levinson wrote in message news:...
> aka RhINO, Republican In Name Only http://www.stentorian.com/politics/
>
> McCain also wants to help Gore and Lieberman destroy American jobs
> through greenhouse gas regulations: http://www.stentorian.com/kyoto/

stentorian.com--good site. Have I ever said that?

"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
> Kerry) wrote:
>
> >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
> >
> >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
> >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
> >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
> >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
> >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
> >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
> >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
> >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
>
> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
>
> Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.

Senator McCain has the right to say any damned thing he pleases. He has
earned it.

You, on the other hand. . . . .

ted

"Ted Gittinger" wrote in message
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>
> "John A. Stovall" wrote in message
> news:rl9t2015oq1aijlv0b2jo0kgue9ppgshq9@4ax.com...
> > On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
> > Kerry) wrote:
> >
> > >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
> > >
> > >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
> > >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
> > >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
> > >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
> > >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
> > >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
> > >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
> > >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
> >
> > Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
> > Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
> >
> > Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.
>
> Senator McCain has the right to say any damned thing he pleases.

Yup, and when he lies and does bad things for America, we have the right to
say so, too.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:54:38 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
wrote:

>
>"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
>news:rl9t2015oq1aijlv0b2jo0kgue9ppgshq9@4ax.com...
>> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
>> Kerry) wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
>> >
>> >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
>> >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
>> >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
>> >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
>> >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
>> >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
>> >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
>> >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
>>
>> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
>> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
>>
>> Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.
>
>Senator McCain has the right to say any damned thing he pleases. He has
>earned it.

Senator McCain has no more Rights than any other citizen and no one
earns them.


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"Fighting in an army is a psychotic condition encouraged by
a rule-of-thumb psychological technique discovered independently
by every son-of-a-bitch conqueror who ever brought a backward
people out of a comfortable, civilized state of nonentity
(Chaka Zulu, Attila, Bismark, etc.) and started them slaughtering
their neighbors. I don't approve of people who encourage psychoses
in their fellow human beings. You probably do. Cure yourself of
that habit. from "You: Beast" by Chad C. Mulligan"

"Stand On Zanizbar"
by John Brunner

"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
> Kerry) wrote:
>
> >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
> >
> >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
> >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
> >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
> >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
> >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
> >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
> >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
> >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
>
> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
>
> Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.

John McCain has earned the right to say anything he damned well pleases.

ted

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:43:14 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
wrote:

>
>"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
>news:rl9t2015oq1aijlv0b2jo0kgue9ppgshq9@4ax.com...
>> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
>> Kerry) wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
>> >
>> >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
>> >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
>> >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
>> >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
>> >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
>> >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
>> >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
>> >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
>>
>> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
>> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
>>
>> Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.
>
>John McCain has earned the right to say anything he damned well pleases.

Just as any Citizen. Puppy, you don't earn your Rights.


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"I landed in this country,
One year of life to give,
My only friend a weapon,
My only prayer to live."

"Boonie Rats"
John M. Del Vecchio
"The 13th Valley"

"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:43:14 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
> >news:rl9t2015oq1aijlv0b2jo0kgue9ppgshq9@4ax.com...
> >> On 14 Feb 2004 14:50:51 -0800, hanoijanekerry@yahoo.ca (Hanoi Jane
> >> Kerry) wrote:
> >>
> >> >http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
> >> >
> >> >As the American POWs returned home in 1973, they spoke out about the
> >> >inhumane treatment and torture they had suffered as prisoners of war.
> >> >Their stories directly contradicted Jane Fonda's earlier statements of
> >> >1972. Some of the American POWs such as Senator John McCain, a
> >> >former Presidential candidate, stated that he was tortured by his
> >> >guards for refusing to meet with Jane Fonda and her group. Jane
> >> >Fonda, in her response to these new allegations, referred to the
> >> >returning POWs as being "hypocrites and liars."
> >>
> >> Sounds to me like a very good description of John McCain. A Liberal
> >> Democrat who keeps claiming to be a Republican.
> >>
> >> Hypocrite and liar describes him very well.
> >
> >John McCain has earned the right to say anything he damned well pleases.
>
> Just as any Citizen. Puppy, you don't earn your Rights.

Let me guess. Constitutionalist? Libertarian?

Idiot?

ted
>
>
> ************************************************** ***
>
> "I landed in this country,
> One year of life to give,
> My only friend a weapon,
> My only prayer to live."
>
> "Boonie Rats"
> John M. Del Vecchio
> "The 13th Valley"