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Old 12-09-2002, 06:05 AM
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Default more information...for americans...

to worry about...this morning ABC had on an interview
with a whistle blower about real problems at one nuclear power plant on the east coast. you will hear about it all day. then C-SPAN had an interview with
michelle malkin, author of the book
"invasion" which is all about the INS.
anybody out there see either of these?
it will allow you to understand the serious situation we are headed for due
to the way certain departments are operated and it appears that correcting the problems that exist...is not close at hand!!!

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Old 12-09-2002, 09:30 AM
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Default Thanks for info...Daniel.

However, and since INS incompetence and The Criminally Illegal Alien "Invasion" has been going-on for decades unabatted,...one could easily call such information: "Old news".

Still, it is nice that some with a voice in America are FINALLY getting the sad realities and sorry state of affairs out to The Public. Though, wouldn't it be more sensible if those with a voice here stopped sugar-coating things by people-pacifyingly calling Criminally Illegal Aliens the politically conjured-up non-words: "Illegal IMMIGRANTS"? Shouldn't The People be HONESTLY informed.

After all, and even if only 1% of our 20 or 30 million: "Illegal Alien Invasion" over the years aren't here to pick tomatoes or whatever,...that means that there are at least 2-3 million Criminally Illegal Aliens of malintent spread-out throught The Nation, and of which no one seems to have a clue of exactly where such possible terrorists are. For shame.

Besides, and even from a civilian standard, during wartime not knowing whom the enemy is, where the enemy are, and where the enemy chooses to attack next,...certainly isn't very reassuring.
Hell, this is first time in my lifetime as an American, that I don't automatically feel like a winner. It goes without saying,...I sure hope I'm wrong.
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Old 12-09-2002, 05:01 PM
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on the INS were enough to make my stomach turn. I have seen the interview with the author of Invasion but I have not read the book. Much of her interview is what I heard while watching the hearings. Rober Baer considered to be one of the best CIA field officers in the Middle East was interviewed on the History Channel one evening and his story will also give you pause. Follows a review (not mine) of his book and comments in the preface of the book. I would recommend a reading of it.

See No Evil By Robert Baer

Robert Baer was considered perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East." --Seymour M. Hersh, The New Yorker

"Robert Baer [was] one of the most talented Middle East case officers of the past twenty years." -- Reuel Marc Gerecht, The Atlantic Monthly

In See No Evil, one of the CIA?s top field officers of the past quarter century recounts his career running agents in the back alleys of the Middle East. In the process, Robert Baer paints a chilling picture of how terrorism works on the inside and provides compelling evidence about how Washington politics sabotaged the CIA?s efforts to root out the world?s deadliest terrorists.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, the world witnessed the terrible result of that intelligence failure with the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In the wake of those attacks, Americans were left wondering how such an obviously long-term, globally coordinated plot could have escaped detection by the CIA and taken the nation by surprise. Robert Baer was not surprised. A twenty-one-year veteran of the CIA?s Directorate of Operations who had left the agency in 1997, Baer observed firsthand how an increasingly bureaucratic CIA lost its way in the post-cold war world and refused to adequately acknowledge and neutralize the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalist terror in the Middle East and elsewhere.

A throwback to the days when CIA operatives got results by getting their hands dirty and running covert operations, Baer spent his career chasing down leads on suspected terrorists in the world?s most volatile hot spots. As he and his agents risked their lives gathering intelligence, he watched as the CIA reduced drastically its operations overseas, failed to put in place people who knew local languages and customs, and rewarded workers who knew how to play the political games of the agency?s suburban Washington headquarters but not how to recruit agents on the ground.

See No Evil is not only a candid memoir of the education and disillusionment of an intelligence operative but also an unprecedented look at the roots of modern terrorism. Baer reveals some of the disturbing details he uncovered in his work, including:

* In 1996, Osama bin Laden established a strategic alliance with Iran to coordinate terrorist attacks against the United States.

* In 1995, the National Security Council intentionally aborted a military coup d?etat against Saddam Hussein, forgoing the last opportunity to get rid of him.

* In 1991, the CIA intentionally shut down its operations in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, and ignored fundamentalists operating there.

When Baer left the agency in 1997 he received the Career Intelligence Medal, with a citation that says, "He repeatedly put himself in personal danger, working the hardest targets, in service to his country." See No Evil is Baer?s frank assessment of an agency that forgot that "service to country" must transcend politics and is a forceful plea for the CIA to return to its original mission -- the preservation of our national sovereignty and the American way of life.

From The Preface: This book is a memoir of one foot soldier?s career in the other cold war, the one against terrorist networks. It?s a story about places most Americans will never travel to, about people many Americans would prefer to think we don?t need to do business with. This memoir, I hope, will show the reader how spying is supposed to work, where the CIA lost its way, and how we can bring it back again. But I hope this book will accomplish one more purpose as well: I hope it will show why I am angry about what happened to the CIA. And I want to show why every American and everyone who cares about the preservation of this country should be angry and alarmed, too. The CIA was systematically destroyed by political correctness, by petty Beltway wars, by careerism, and much more. At a time when terrorist threats were compounding globally, the agency that should have been monitoring them was being scrubbed clean instead. Americans were making too much money to bother. Life was good. The White House and the National Security Council became cathedrals of commerce where the interests of big business outweighed the interests of protecting American citizens at home and abroad. Defanged and dispirited, the CIA went along for the ride. And then on September 11, 2001, the reckoning for such vast carelessness was presented for all the world to see.

My thoughts:

A book worth reading a man worth listening to. A credible witness to the foot dragging that took place in Washington to maintain the status quo in the Gulf.
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the following is a review (not mine) of a book that I am in the process of reading right now. It too will give you pause.


US-Taliban Secret Oil Diplomacy And The Failed Hunt For Bin Laden -Authors Jean-Charles Brisard & Guillaume Dasquie

The bin Laden family was so outraged by the book they got it banned in Switzerland.

Take a look inside and decide if close ties with Saudi Arabia's Petro-Dictatorship compromised America's Attempts to combat Bin Laden and the Al Qaeda Net Work.

A well documented work including the thoughts of John O'Neill, the former director of the FBI's New York office. John spent years tracking bin Laden. As the chief counter terrorism agent within the bureau O'Neill describes within this book his frustrations in dealing with an uncooperative U.S. Ambassador to Yemen who, along with her CIA and State Department Interlocutors, was more interested in placating Saudi and American oil interests than bringing the attackers of the US Cole to Justice. John O'Neill testimony alone will give a thinking person reason to pause. O'Neill ironically took a position as director of security for the WTC and died carrying out his duty on September 11, 2001.
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