Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

gee whiz...them college professors must have lied thru their teeth when they
tried to tell me there wuz two basic types of friction coefficients...

one is static...it's the force you must overcome to get something moving to
begin with. could be the reason there were problems with the springs at
the first coupla rounds. they're jammed in there and it takes more effort
to get em to feed initially than it does later as the tension is relieved.

the other is dynamic...this is the force that you have opposing you as you
try to move something. I suppose this is the friction you encounter after
the rounds begin moving into the rifle...ya know...the sides of the
magazine, the flanges where it fits into the lower receiver. they may have
used improper tensioning on the springs...lowest bidders etc...if the
magazine fed rounds into the rifle initially just fine then they may have
had problems with the last coupla rounds. company prolly added a coil to
the spring instead of dealing with the makeup of the spring's material.

recall a physics problem where you incline a ramp with a block of wood on
it. at some point that block of wood is gonna move down the ramp due to
the acceleration of gravity. the static coefficient of friction has to be
overcome to get it going...the kinetic coefficient of friction acts on the
block after it is moving.

there's also molecular and a few others but I'm confused already...but can
you see where that magazine coulda had problems on both ends. certainly
most of us agree that old magazines were trouble

and by the way, if it hasn't been mentioned before...grunts carried ammo in
the funny lookin green pouches straight outta the ammo can...in addition to
loaded magazines. it probably is more than likely folks carried at least
one of them bandoliers...mebbe two...in that case...20 clips. :) see I'm
on yer side...sometimes.



Dino the Dino reports:

> I didn't work for Colt but I went to armorer school in 1968 and by then,
52
> changes had been made to the M-16... more changes than there were parts.
> I said that all of the malfunctions that I had with my M-16 rifles
occurred
> during the first few rounds when the spring tension would be the
greatest...
> This was also the case with others who I knew had problems...
>

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

"Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7v9smv492rs8drqhae84upcb3q9gjiumhq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:00:22 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
> <ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >I wonder if you can get high off Georgia lizards.
> >
> >Rita
> >
> I am getting old. Is that what they are calling them now days? I
> thought it was still Georgia Peaches.

Hey, mix a little Georgia peach with yer bong.

Reptar

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

"Piranha Pete" <bacardi@nectar.of.the.gods.com> wrote in message
news:bkii52$mha$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r1hpmvs3lcvf66u8f5mor9s3mkkefmnt3a@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:51:55 -0400, "Joe S." <maxleonard@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:q71pmvsa5jo84o6afe7gveegenon8a3kus@4ax.com.. .
> > >> Gee,
> > >> Mr Macho man with his full auto, bipod, scoped weapon and 20 clips
> > >
> > >Clips? Was he toting an M1?
> > You never know with him. I am waiting for the next round of his war
> > stories to tell us he was the first ever to use a laser in combat.
>
>
> Well don't forget Patrick, he WAS a starship trooper....we already know
> about those little rocket boosters on his boots which allowed him to
> levitate over, instead of through, elephant grass. I think the root of
all
> his problems can be traced back to all the times he was beamed up and down
> like an elevator to the starship....he didn't get all his particles back
> from the transporter bay and the result is what you see today...he's
> incomplete....he doesn't know who the hell he is - Latrine Boy, Sybil,
> Troopervet, Alligator Al, Rusty, Dusty or Crusty and who the hell knows
who
> else. For all we know he could be a Dalek.

I first read that as "he didn't get all his testicles back..."

Rita

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:09:14 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
<ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:

>
>"Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7v9smv492rs8drqhae84upcb3q9gjiumhq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:00:22 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
>> <ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >I wonder if you can get high off Georgia lizards.
>> >
>> >Rita
>> >
>> I am getting old. Is that what they are calling them now days? I
>> thought it was still Georgia Peaches.
>
>Hey, mix a little Georgia peach with yer bong.
>
>Reptar

Does that work as good as Ben Gay????????????????

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

In article <vmsi6bj97bbn9e@corp.supernews.com>, Carl Hatchell says...
>
>The US was long gone before the war was lost but I do wonder how we
>managed to do so well what with the stories you tell about soldiers
>killing all their NCO's and officers, leaving downed aircrews in the field to
>fend for themselves and assorted atrocities in which you alternately claim to
>have participated and then denied doing so. Why that must shock even a
>defrocked Minister like yourself. Unless, of course, you thought you had to
>lie to be accepted in AWV as you also claimed.
> BTW, do you bring these incidents up when you claim that you attend
>your unit reunions? Have you seen the Rev. Steer and his wife since you
>lied to her on the phone as you said and she confirmed?
>
>Carl Hatchell

Take some exlax and call me in the morning...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

In article <2Wrbb.1414$CV2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>, Walter Eagle says...
>
>gee whiz...them college professors must have lied thru their teeth when they
>tried to tell me there wuz two basic types of friction coefficients...
>
>one is static...it's the force you must overcome to get something moving to
>begin with. could be the reason there were problems with the springs at
>the first coupla rounds. they're jammed in there and it takes more effort
>to get em to feed initially than it does later as the tension is relieved.

The claim was that the springs became weak when all 20 rounds were placed in the
magazine. A weak spring fails during the last few rounds - not the first few
rounds...

Isn't this the third time I've said that?

It is just an old myth that won't go away...

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

On 21 Sep 2003 18:42:27 -0700, Alligator Al
<Alligator_member@newsguy.com> wrote:

>In article <2Wrbb.1414$CV2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>, Walter Eagle says...
>>
>>gee whiz...them college professors must have lied thru their teeth when they
>>tried to tell me there wuz two basic types of friction coefficients...
>>
>>one is static...it's the force you must overcome to get something moving to
>>begin with. could be the reason there were problems with the springs at
>>the first coupla rounds. they're jammed in there and it takes more effort
>>to get em to feed initially than it does later as the tension is relieved.
>
>The claim was that the springs became weak when all 20 rounds were placed in the
>magazine. A weak spring fails during the last few rounds - not the first few
>rounds...
>
>Isn't this the third time I've said that?
>
>It is just an old myth that won't go away...

I can't for the life of me imagine why hearing it at a rifle range,
ITR, NTA and out in the field with seasoned combat vets ( in my case
WWII and Korea) you wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt.

I used 14 rounds in my M-14, I came home. That is more than I could
have asked for at the time. Myth or not, if some kid asked me if I
knew any secrets of staying alive in combat, I would say yea, respect
your elders and those that have been there and done that......This is
just one example. Springs have a memory, if you abuse it over time it
will let you down.

I only fired an M-16 for familiarization so I don't have first hand
knowledge of that system, but I do know the M-14 and in my unit, we
all paid attention to those things. It was second nature.

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

On 21 Sep 2003 16:54:50 -0700, Alligator Al
<Alligator_member@newsguy.com> wrote:


>
>That came right out of a Hollywood movie... Get real, Greg...


Are you sure you were in Viet Nam, may-be you're confused again and
your war was Star Wars.
For someone who ?was? there you sure missed a lot.
Only a guess but may-be one of the posts were right, you inhaled too
many fumes burning all that shit. Taped mag's were a big thing at one
time, as were loading them with 18 rounds. Then again may-be you were
there, but which side did you do your fighting for? Them Gooks did
some strange shit, and this fits with the tales you weave.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste, if you have one.
Good luck with your next fantasy.

Ken
11 Bravo

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:57 -0700, Patrick t. <patrickth@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:09:14 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
><ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:7v9smv492rs8drqhae84upcb3q9gjiumhq@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:00:22 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
>>> <ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >I wonder if you can get high off Georgia lizards.
>>> >
>>> >Rita
>>> >
>>> I am getting old. Is that what they are calling them now days? I
>>> thought it was still Georgia Peaches.
>>
>>Hey, mix a little Georgia peach with yer bong.
>>
>>Reptar
>
>Does that work as good as Ben Gay????????????????

Whoooo...

Re: A Sniper with 20 Clips???????????
 

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 02:44:44 GMT, Matt Osborn <msosborn@attglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:57 -0700, Patrick t. <patrickth@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:09:14 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
>><ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Patrick t." <patrickth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:7v9smv492rs8drqhae84upcb3q9gjiumhq@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:00:22 -0400, "MeSoSweet"
>>>> <ritahansard@numail.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >I wonder if you can get high off Georgia lizards.
>>>> >
>>>> >Rita
>>>> >
>>>> I am getting old. Is that what they are calling them now days? I
>>>> thought it was still Georgia Peaches.
>>>
>>>Hey, mix a little Georgia peach with yer bong.
>>>
>>>Reptar
>>
>>Does that work as good as Ben Gay????????????????
>
>Whoooo...
Yea, I know